Michael J. Fox & Parkinson's

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  1. El_Guero

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    Is it correct for actors like Michael J. Fox to use their illnesses for political gain?

    Has Michael J. Fox lessened his dosage of Parkinson's disease medication?

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    You do realize that the shaking is caused by the medication, don't you? Had MJF not taken his medication, he probably would not have been able to talk clearly.

    Why is it that when Michael J. Fox does a commercial for someone else's campaign in reference to a cause to which he is supporting he is using his illness for political gain? Is he not allowed to do that? Should he simply keep quiet? Is that any different than when the POTUS declared that he was vetoing that bill surrounded by those children? Or is it only allowed when the people in question are supporting "conservative" causes?

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    BiR, you beat me to the punch. I posed similar questions in the other thread, but no one seemed to answer. I find this whole idea of "political sympathy" absurd. What about Megan Kanka's parents? They used her death to make sure Megans Law was passed in all 50 states. MADD on a consistent basis uses those killed or injured by drunk drivers for political sympathy. Where is the outrage for that? It is funny how it is okay, as long as it is something conservatives would agree with.
     
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    Well . . . if it ain't doctors a and b?

    No the shakes are NOT CAUSED by the medications . . . PARKINSON'S causes these 'familiar tremors' . . .

    And yes, it is evident in several of his interviews that he is at different levels of 'familiar tremors'. Not being his doctor, I do not know if he is being interviewed during a period of low dosage. From my experience (what a concept) when the 'familiar tremors' intensify and lessen there is an issue with quantity of medication. Sometimes the quantity is left intentionally lower because of the side effects . . .

    And I am not playing doctor . . .
     
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    bir

    Maybe it would be easier for you to explain how the POTUS was using children for political gain?

    Personally, I think that children and the elderly should receive special treatment.

    However, I do not think that a disability should give someone special political influence.

    If you believe differently then say so.

    The topic was about using a disability for political gain and not about obfuscation.


     
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    That's quite a stretch even for you BiR
     
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    I just pray that he doesn't get the disease so that he can learn what it is like . . .

    It just ain't a walk in the park.
     
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    Mr. Fox has admitted in interviews that the constant motion usually seen in his interviews is often a result of the medication. He has overmedicated at times, causing the reaction, in an attempt to avoid the possibly difficulties in speaking that would occur without the medication.
     
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    Did those children make the choice to appear on stage with the POTUS, or were the paraded out there by their parents at the request of the POTUS? Most of them were rather young to be making a political statement on their own.

    Oh, okay: so the children and the elderly "should receive special treatment," but not the physically challenged? You're all heart, EG.

    Especially when they don't share your political viewpoint, right? This is unbelievable. So, if I understand you correctly, it's okay to bring out children when the POTUS is announcing a veto but someone with a physical ailment should not have any "political influence" (your words). Wow: thanks for clearing that up.

    I asked you several questions, didn't I?
    But thanks for clarifying your opinion on this. This was quite a revealing post.

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    Of coures it is correct, use whatever you have. Even Rush Limbaugh said it was a good idea.

    Michael J. Fox has admitted in print and on national network news to going off his medication and exaggerating his symptoms for interviews when it would help his cause. There is nothing wrong with this.

    Fox is using his own life and own experience to advance his cause. There is nothing wrong with that, politicians do it all the time. I have a bigger problem with those who use children or set up other victims and try to profit from someone else’s pain or experience. At least Fox knows what he is doing. I don’t think someone else is taking advantage of him. Whenever you see kids used for political gain that may not be the case. Parents have a right to use their children that way but you are much closer to that grey area than with an adult.
     
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    He wasn't shaking in the commercial, he was swaying. The word is dyskinesia (linkie).
    Does your experience include Parkinson's disease?

    Yet you feel qualified to state categorically that Fox's movements are NOT CAUSED by the medications?
     
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    Daisy,

    Not only has the man admitted it - I do not need specialized training or knowledge to read his statements - there is a wealth of material on the subject.

    But yes, I am personally much more acquainted with the disease than I would like to be.
     
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    Really good post.

    I do not like his using his condition for political gain. But, I can agree with you that he has done so honestly - even if others around him may not be as honest.

     
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    Richmond,

    You sure don't express a knowledge of the disease.

    It is one wicked disease. And while I can understand his desire to be cured even if searching for a cure results in the abortions of thousands or millions - I do not share his desire to sacrifice children to research.

     
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    Do you have it?
     
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    Do you really think that is any of your business? Is it any of your business how close that disease is to me?

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    No, I do not have the disease.

     
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    Since you are using yourself as an authority by stating that you are "aquainted" with it, yeah. Don't bring your personal life into the discussion if you don't want it discussed.

    And since you've been hinting at it, it becomes a fair question.

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    No, you do?

    How is it you can state that Fox's involuntary movements (head weaving, hands gesturing) are not caused by medicines which are well-documented to cause dyskinesea and is instead caused by Parkinson's which is known to cause tremors and rigidity? Yes, the information is out there - why do you seem to be unaware of it?
     
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    Gotta love a typo.

    My mistake.

    Actually, little is known about the disease. You say that it is documented and that you are aware of the documentation. The documentation is simple.

    We do not know what causes it.

    We do not know all of the symptoms.

    We can only guess at anything dealing with the disease.

    And even then specialists make mistakes in diagnoses and treatment.

    ;)

    Ya' gotta love a disease with almost nothing known about it.
     
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    But, even the untrained and unaware should be able to verify the veracity of Fox's statements that he is varying his medication on purpose when he is being interviewed.

    That is his stated purpose, and it is evident during his interviews. IMHO.

    Further, the reaction of his body from tremors to swaying is not entirely the medication . . . it is OFTEN underdosing. And you can watch the effect of taking the proper amount of medication within minutes. (Usually 30 - 60).
     
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    Thanks for stating the obvious, as I never claimed to express a knowledge of the disease, did I?

    As you didn't answer a single question I posed to you, I seriously doubt you will answer that one either.

    Really? You "understand" his desire? As I don't have the desire, I don't truly understand it.

    Unless you plan on answering any of my questions posed to you, a response is not necessary.

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