Mid-East Conflict Not Exactly About Oil

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  1. poncho

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    To say as many commentators do, that the color revolutions in the Mid-East and North Africa is about oil to miss the point. Well not exactly. Oil is an important part of the equation in so far as it relates to the greater agenda of the Western power elite to create global governance and a related global monetary/financial system (necessary to finance the plan).

    See, it is not oil that anchors this century-old plan. No, the plan existed long before oil played such an important role in our present day economies. I'll come back to this point in a few paragraphs.

    Many things change over time, such as how the elite was forced to re-group following the societal shifting impact of the Gutenberg press. Eventually, a new religion was born with Karl Marx and rebranded to suit a more generic interpretation; today it is simply called democracy.

    Yet once again in history, some 500 years later, we see the power of a communications revolution to shatter the one-world plans of the Western elite. This time the game-changer is the Internet. And it is prying open previously locked doors that restricted the truth from exposing the inner workings of elite-inspired dominant social themes, themes that are echoed by mainstream Western media and governments.

    And so it is with the oil theme being strummed by many peak-oilers and other weary Western apologists – willingly trumpeted by the mainstream media. Repeatedly we hear, in various iterations, that the reason for all of the invasions in Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, etc. is to either secure oil supply or transportation routes, etc.

    Now, as mentioned above, we fully acknowledge the importance of oil in today's economy – and that is exactly the point. But it isn't the necessity of oil in today's economy that makes it worth battling for. No. It is the control and maintenance over the pricing mechanism of oil, which is essential to funding and ongoing advance towards global governance.

    We live in a world that is just starting to come out of the Dark Ages of elite control. Central banking has devoured the wealth and productivity of America, leaving a nation of debtors with no ability to service their obligations. The fiat-dollar and its fractional reserve (fraudulent) banking system has done its job well, when you understand the greater agenda. And the very tightly controlled mainstream media is 100% on board with the whole devious process.

    Here's what you won't hear discussed on CNN or FOX or in the pages of the NY Times, etc.:

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    Anthony Wile


    Anthony Wile is an author, columnist, media commentator and entrepreneur focused on developing projects that promote the general advancement of free-market thinking concepts.


    Mr. Wile is a senior editor of TheDailyBell.com and Executive Director of its publisher, The Foundation for the Advancement of Free-Market Thinking – a non-profit Liechtenstein-based foundation. Prior to founding the Daily Bell in 2008, Mr. Wile founded and ran, along with the late Harry Browne and others, Free Market News Network Corp. His most popular book, High Alert, is now in its third edition and available in several languages. High Alert, first published in 2004 was an early predictor of many of the events that have rocked global financial markets during the past 6 years. Mr. Wile is a staunch advocate of free banking and the need for societies to adopt an honest money standard. Mr. Wile has published more than 200 articles dealing with a variety of issues from a free-market perspective. Other notable books written by Mr. Wile include The Liberation of Flockhead (2002) and The Value of Gold (2002). Prior to beginning a career in publishing, Mr. Wile worked in the Canadian investment industry with Scotia McLeod (Bank of Nova Scotia), and Nesbitt Burns (Bank of Montreal). He continues to advise and consult to large international banks and money managers as well as to senior executives at both senior and junior mining firms. A Certified Investment Manager, he was made a Fellow of the Canadian Securities Institute in 1994. In 1991, Mr. Wile graduated from Saint Mary's University in Halifax, Nova Scotia, with a business degree.


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    Is the the same Anthony Wile that the SEC is looking to serve for stock manipulation?

    If it is, isn't he sorta in hiding from them?
     
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    I dunno is it the same guy? Why not do some digging and post the results for us?

    But, . . .

    If per chance it does turn out to be the same guy, what bearing does that have on the information in this article if it is factual?

    And, . . .

    If this information is indeed factual and accurate wouldn't it stand to reason that the PTB would be after him not so much for any alleged stock manipulations but for "letting the cat out of the bag" about their global ponzi scheme? This information is posted all over the web for all the world to see and ponder. Making demons out of those who oppose them and their agenda is what the globalists do best after all.
     
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    Factual?

    I read very little fact, but there is a whole lot of opinion by a guy that disparages the very same system he illegally manipulates for his own gain.

    I would take anything he said with a grain of salt. He's the type that is more likely trying to manipulate things for his own benefit by using fear to influence the behavior of those that believe his opinions are facts.

    In the past, Mr. Wile spent time in jail for bribing a broker. Soon after that he popped up in the crosshairs of the British Columbia Securities Commission, in Jerome Rak's Capital Reserve affair. This time he was banned for three years.

    And he's been charged by the SEC with market manipulation in what is known as the Sedona affair.

    In short , I don't think much of your source. He's a crook.
     
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    Got proof? Then show it. So far all you've shown us is that you can type a bunch of words..
     
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    You must be embarrassed that you never checked your source.

    I did.

    Doesn't matter to me if you believe it or not. It's easy enough to verify if you're interested. I've done enough of your work for you.
     
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    You made the accusations the burden of proof is on you. Man up and back your claims for a change.

    What is a man called who will not live up to the same demands he places on others? Carpro!
     
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    >We live in a world that is just starting to come out of the Dark Ages of elite control

    Evidence of excess self-medication?
     
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    No, evidence of paying attention.

    "For the first time in history almost all of humanity is politically activated, politically conscious and politically interactive. Global activism is generating a surge in the quest for cultural respect and economic opportunity in a world scarred by memories of colonial or imperial domination." Zbigniew Brzezinski

    Speaking of evidence. Carpro's seems to be non existant, same goes for his credibility. My world is going to be a better place without him. 2 da loo Carpro! :laugh:
     
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    Anyone that wants to can google your source to find out he's a white collar crook.

    That includes you. But I suspect you already have and just don't have the guts to admit it.

    However, just in case, I'm wrong and you really don't know about him, I'll give you a hint for Google...Anthony Wile, SEC, Sedona

    It took a little digging to find that your source spent time in jail for bribery of a broker, but you're a smart guy. I'm sure you can find it.


    If you're interested.
     
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    >>>We live in a world that is just starting to come out of the Dark Ages of elite control

    >>Evidence of excess self-medication?

    >No, evidence of paying attention.

    >"For the first time in history almost all of humanity is politically activated, politically conscious and politically interactive. Global activism is generating a surge in the quest for cultural respect and economic opportunity in a world scarred by memories of colonial or imperial domination." Zbigniew Brzezinski


    That's what our owners, including Zbig, want you to think. <G> Is any of this global activation slowing the flow of hard assets from the workers to the owners or is it mostly tearing down American workers?
     
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    billwald,

    It isn't going to slow down until we as a nation realize that the false left vs right paradigm is just that. A false paradigm meant to keep us divided.

    We have to break out it or we aren't going to be a free and sovereign nation for much longer.


    Here's what I found Carpro.

    (vi) Anthony Wile is permanently enjoined from violating the antifraud and securities offering registration provisions, Section 10(b) of the Exchange Act and Rule 10b-5 thereunder, and Sections 5 and 17(a) of the Securities Act; (2) ordered to pay a civil penalty in the amount of $35,000; (3) barred from serving as an officer or director of a public company for a period of five years; and (4) barred from participating in an offering of penny stock for a period of three years;

    SOURCE

    He did indeed break the law as you said. It turns out you were right and evidently he's going to pay for his wrong doing as he should.

    Now, why couldn't you have just posted a link to this information instead of going through all the theatrics? I know you know how because you've posted links to articles and information in the past.

    What was the point of all that anyway?

    In the future I won't be posting any more of Anthony Wile's articles.

    How's that? Is that fair enough? I think so. I still think he's right about these "wars" being waged to keep the global oil trade in dollars given all the supporting evidnece I've seen over the past 30 or so years that I've been involved in researching the global elite and their agenda for one world government. Are there other reasons we keep meddling in the affairs of other nations and dropping bombs on them? Yes of course there is but this is the major factor that drives the "international community" today.

    There is nothing wrong or misleading about the information in his article.

    But for the sake of argument I won't be sourcing him any longer.

    Now with that said.

    I remember a time not to long ago their was a group of men claiming to be independent military analysts all over the news misleading people becasue they were in actual fact either employed by the pentagon as paid propagandists or had links to the many military weapons systems manufacturers who profit greatly from the endless foreign interventions the neocons started.

    Remember those? The Message Force Multipliers?
    [A] Pentagon information apparatus…has used those analysts in a campaign to generate favorable news coverage of the administration’s wartime performance, an examination by The New York Times has found…


    The effort, which began with the buildup to the Iraq war and continues to this day, has sought to exploit ideological and military allegiances, and also a powerful financial dynamic: Most of the analysts have ties to military contractors vested in the very war policies they are asked to assess on air…

    Records and interviews show how the Bush administration has used its control over access and information in an effort to transform the analysts into a kind of media Trojan horse — an instrument intended to shape terrorism coverage from inside the major TV and radio networks….

    These records reveal a symbiotic relationship where the usual dividing lines between government and journalism have been obliterated.

    Internal Pentagon documents [8,000 pages, to which the Times sued the Defense Department to gain access] repeatedly refer to the military analysts as “message force multipliers” or “surrogates” who could be counted on to deliver administration “themes and messages” to millions of Americans “in the form of their own opinions.”

    You were sourcing these people on a regular basis here. Remember? I do because I brought it to your attention that they were not what they claimed and that they and the companies they were secretly representing stood to gain by spreading false and misleading information about the actions in Iraq and afghanistan.

    Did I supply the evidence to back my claims? Yes! Without hesitation and witout a bunch of theatrics. I didn't tell you to go do your own homework did I? No!

    What did you do after that? Did you admit you made a mistake? No!

    What did you do? Did you stop sourcing them after they were shown to be frauds and intentionally spreading misinformation that lead Americans to believe in the "big lie"? No!

    You kept right on sourcing them anyway.

    There is so many lies and misinformation being spread around by people who stand to to gain one way or another from the destruction of this country and others around the world that we can no longer afford to go on arguing amongst ourselves about "partisan" poltics and which country we should be attacking next.

    All this petty bickering has to stop or we aren't going to be a free and sovereign nation anymore. We can't afford to stay divided and at each other throats no matter how fun it might be or how good it might feel to "get the better" of the other guy.

    We need to start working together here now. Because tomorrow might be to late.

    However Carpro, I'm keeping you on my ignore list because I just don't need all the theatrics.
     
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