Mika: ‘Media Would Be Exploding’ If Gruber Was A Republican

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  1. Revmitchell

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    Co-host of MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” went off the liberal script this morning, shaming the mainstream media for ignoring the story of Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber saying the “stupidity of the American voter” required them to lie in order to pass the bill.

    Brzezinski mentioned that she had seen the Gruber story the day before, and she was “surprised it didn’t emerge” in the mainstream media. “Nobody covered it except for some right-wing outlets,” she said. “Had this been a Republican, what do you think would have happened?”

    Mike Barnicle compared him to Ronald Reagan’s budget director David Stockman, who was hammered for comments he made in 1981 saying that no one in the White House understood what the budget numbers meant. “So let me guess, nobody dealt with it, right? Just a few left-wing bloggers brought it up, right? It wasn’t covered? I think there was a huge firestorm, I believe.”

    “It was,” he agreed.

    “Exactly! That’s my point!” she yelled.

    http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/12/mika-media-would-be-exploding-if-gruber-was-a-republican-video/
     
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    Is this your way of making sure the word gets out. By starting a hundred threads on the same topic.
     
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    One of the clear signs that someone is obsessing about something. Pure idolatry.
     
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    He slings the word operative around all the time too which is one of the most ironic things I've ever read on this board.
     
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    I laugh every time he mentions the word thinking the exact same thing. :laugh:
     
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    Yes, it is.

    From the article:
    The issue at hand in this sixth video is known as the "Cadillac tax," which was represented as a tax on employers' expensive health insurance plans. While employers do not currently have to pay taxes on health insurance plans they provide employees, starting in 2018, companies that provide health insurance that costs more than $10,200 for an individual or $27,500 for a family will have to pay a 40 percent tax.

    "Economists have called for 40 years to get rid of the regressive, inefficient and expensive tax subsidy provided for employer provider health insurance," Gruber said at the Pioneer Institute for public policy research in Boston. The subsidy is "terrible policy," Gruber said.

    "It turns out politically it's really hard to get rid of," Gruber said. "And the only way we could get rid of it was first by mislabeling it, calling it a tax on insurance plans rather than a tax on people when we all know it's a tax on people who hold those insurance plans."

    The second way was have the tax kick in "late, starting in 2018. But by starting it late, we were able to tie the cap for Cadillac Tax to CPI, not medical inflation," Gruber said. CPI is the consumer price index, which is lower than medical inflation.

    Gruber explains that by drafting the bill this way, they were able to pass something that would initially only impact some employer plans though it would eventually hit almost every employer plan.

    "What that means is the tax that starts out hitting only 8% of the insurance plans essentially amounts over the next 20 years essentially getting rid of the exclusion for employer sponsored plans," Gruber said. "This was the only political way we were ever going to take on one of the worst public policies in America."


    Reading between the lines we can see that the Obama administration estimates that health care insurance plans will eventually top $27,500 per year for a family of four sometime in the next 20 years. And by eliminating the employer sponsored plan, their long term goal was likely a single payer system.

    It's just a shame that this isn't being reported in the mainstream media. Oh, wait, <James Earl Jones voice> "This is CNN."
     
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    Yup. CNN. The Clinton News Network.
     
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    It looks like the architects of this plan are no better than common criminals. Lies, subterfuge, hidden taxes everywhere.

    I knew it was bad, but I confess, I didn't think it would be this bad.

    And the corrupt old media is still not reporting.

    Republicans are right. It can't be fixed. It needs to be repealed.
     
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    I'm still not understanding why it is such big news to some? It would be news to me if you told me they were trying to be frank and to the point in drafting bills.
     
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    Yeah, I'm not getting it either. Maybe because Gruber is such a smug, arrogant donkey?

    "Grubering" is trending on Twitter. It means trying to fool voters into thinking you're doing something for their benefit when you're really doing something else. Or else it means lying to someone that is stupid.

    Also "telling a gruber" is a synonymous with telling a lie.

    Since the health care law affects everyone, it has turned into a big story.
     
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    I wonder how many other single pieces of legislation account for approx. 6% of GDP (projected to increase by 25% in the next 8 years) and affect every single person in the country.

    Here's a hint. None.

    Might be why all the lies and subterfuge are still important and more will become apparent as time goes on.

    Might also be time to ask what will happen when SCOTUS decides subsidies can only be paid to people living in 14 states.

    Might also be why the subject is still important.

    But here's a flash for you. If it's not important to you , you don't have to participate in the discussion.
     
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    I wasn't gullible enough to believe Nancy with this act or President Bush with the Patriot Act. So I can certainly see through the fact that the reasons listed ain't REALLY why this is important to some. :laugh: It's OBVIOUS why it is important to some. Nothing but more partisan politics.
     
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    Double Post
     
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    Amazing that it takes some people so long to grasp this fact!! :thumbs::thumbs:
     
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    And why that has to be explained is beyond me.
     
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    It doesn't. The main reason people who aren't really interested in the subject participate in it is to disrupt it or try to completely derail it if they can.

    They just want to spoil it for everyone that is actually discussing the subject.

    Same reason some post a blurb and URL on a completely different subject they like better. I guess it's a need to be the center of attention.

    Happens every day here at BB.
     
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    Then why are you posting in this thread.
     
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    Zaac only has one goal in mine, to be critical of our Christianity.

    Sooner or later he tries to get to the point in every thread he participates in that he can condemn us for discussing politics and how we go about it.


    His main goal here is simply one thing. Disruption. A useful contribution to any subject is, for him, extremely rare.
     

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