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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by richardetyler, Nov 15, 2012.
Are there any other amillennialist here? I tend towards partial preterist as well.
I am between post and amill.:thumbs::wavey:
Yer kidding, right?
I lean towards an Amil approach to the end times. But I have not been completely convinced yet. But I also have not studied it all for awhile.
As I studied Hebrews for a couple of years I left the dispensational idea.I thought that by default I was an optimistic amill.
My Pastor is postmill and challenged me as to why .....so He has helped answer many of my questions, and pointed me toward some solid writers that I am re-reading.
Some who I thought were amill, were post...and I did not know enough to realize it. :laugh::laugh:
As long as a believer openly confesses the return of our Lord as the blessed hope, I am okay with it.:thumbs:
I read each view and look to see how they differ...
Preterist/Amillennial/Historicist/Futurist for me. There's some merit in all of the views, at least with Revelation.
Commendable. I like the optimism of postmill. They have a high view of the power of the gospel and God's sovereign grace. I can get on board with that I guess.
Either way, I like the idea that Jesus' actually did what he set out to do, establish the rule of God on earth as in heaven. Though it is not fully consummated, he has ushered it in along w/ the firstfruits of new creation.
That qualifies you as a pan-millennialist. Everything will pan out according to God's purpose, not man's wishes!
I 'come a hair' of describing myself just that way...pan-mil; it's all gonna pan out just the way it's supposed to.
Does anyone know any good books on partial preterism amillennialism?
I am reading a case for Amillennialism by kim Riddlebarger.
pan-millennialst, everything will pan out!!!
Is this not the funniest thing ever written on the Baptist Board?
Here is one online:
http://www.reformedspokane.org/Doct...illennialism/Defense of Amillennialism00.html
There is a really excellent book written on pre-mill theology titled The Holy Bible. Not exactly what you are looking for but it totally debunks the a-mil, preterist position in all it's variations.
This is the kind of thing in this debate that irritates me-arrogance. As if no one from any other position uses or reads the Bible. One particular group has it all figured out, even though there are respected evangelical voices on every side of this issue that are deeply committed to the Bible that disagree.
Same here... kicking and screaming.
Sorry Brother, but the pre-mill theology rips the bible in pieces..........
The thing that turns me off from postmillennialism is the virtually necessary bent toward theonomy and Christian Reconstructionism. Too "Presbyterian" for me.
I don't know of too many postmillennial Baptists. I have also never seen a postmillennialist who would agree with me on my positions regarding tithing and the Sabbath. As a Reformed covenantal Baptist, I understand that there is a continuity in the covenants and that there is no "parenthesis church." However, I also see some logical disunity between the types and shadows of the Old Covenant and the fulfillment in Christ in the New Covenant.
I also would see the reign of Christ and His saints in the "realized" millennium as that of the gospel conquering Satan's hold on individuals and making them citizens of the Kingdom, not some "Christianizing" secular society so that unbelievers basically become more "moral."
Gal 1:4 [Jesus] Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
Whatever the statistical state of the population of the world when Christ returns, His Great Commission has not failed one iota. He will gather all His elect to Himself with His life-changing gospel. I just don't see the success of the gospel having to do with collectivism.