Miscellaneous and Varied Truth's of scripture!2

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    What are the all things reconciled ?

    Col 1:20

    20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

    Now what are the all things reconciled to God by the Blood of His Cross ? Now many attempt to teach the awful heresy of universalism from this scripture, and it can be in a couple of ways, which both are error ! #1 You have it taught in the sense, and falsely, that Christ has died for all mankind, and so all mankind has a shot at, a choice to make, as to whether or not they accept the reconciliation or not, other words, reconciliation here is only potential, not actual, it has been made possible, now its up to you to accept it ! #2 You have those that teach that reconciliation here means that all mankind has been actually reconciled, and therefore all mankind will be saved, no exceptions, some even include the devil and his angels in this reconciliation ! Yet we know that scripture does not support those fables.

    Hence it is this, that the all things spoken of here are the Elect of God, the Chosen Ones, or the Church. If we consider another scripture, things pertain to the Chosen of God, the People of God, the Temple / Church of God 1 Cor 1:26-28

    26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

    27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

    28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:

    Now who can contend that the word things here as in foolish things, or weak things pertains to persons ?

    And who can deny that those same ones are the ones spoken of here 2 Cor 5:19, the objects of reconciliation as in Col 1:20 ! Hence its concluded that the all things reconciled to God by the Blood of His Cross are the Saints of God, those then in Heaven, and those present then at the Apostles Time !869
     
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    Who are they that come to God by Him ?

    Heb 7:25

    25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by[dia] him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

    The word them even introduces the principal of Particular or Limited coming !

    It is those whom God has Chosen and causeth to approach to Him Ps 65:4

    4 Blessed is the man whom thou choosest, and causest to approach unto thee, that he may dwell in thy courts: we shall be satisfied with the goodness of thy house, even of thy holy temple.

    Even the Old Covenant Saints came to God by Christ Jn 14:6

    6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by[dia] me.

    Its by Christ, because of His Work, that men can come, approach, draw near to God, whether under the OC or NC, because by His Death, He has for them [The Chosen] satisfied God's Law and Justice, and has put away their sins, He hath by His Blood purged away their Transgressions [both OT and NT Believers] Ps 65:3

    3 Iniquities prevail against me: as for our transgressions, thou shalt purge them away. Faith in the Messiah to come !

    Thats also the case for them that come to God by Him here Heb 7:25, for we read of their sins having been purged by Christ here Heb 1:3

    3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

    Thats what the Psalmist had Faith in way back in Ps 65:3 !

    This blessedness is not for all mankind, but unto them that God has Chosen Ps 65:4

    4 Blessed is the man whom thou choosest, and causest to approach unto thee, that he may dwell in thy courts: we shall be satisfied with the goodness of thy house, even of thy holy temple.
     
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    Whose House are We !

    Heb 3:6

    6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.

    Now who are the We here spoken of by this writer of the Book of Hebrews ? Some say this writer is the Apostle Paul, which i believe can be very well true, nevertheless its certainly a New Covenant Believer in Christ; And he is writing other New Covenant Believers and calls themselves Christ's House !

    Notice that he calls CHRIST a Son over His Own House ! Now who is Christ ? Why He is the Head of the Body the Church ! Notice it reads Christ a Son OVER His Own House, as to say the Head over His Own House, equivalent to saying He is the Head over His Own Body the Church ! The word House in Heb 3:6 is the greek word oikos and does mean:

    A.the family of God, of the Christian Church, of the church of the Old and New Testaments

    Now in this Moses was a Type in that as God gave moses a House or People [Israel] under the Old Covenant, of which he was given authority to rule over, hence God has given the Antitype Christ under the New Covenant, a House which He is given rule and Authority over, and this House is the House of Israel, His Body the Church, of which He is Head Eph 1:22

    And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,

    Also just as with the Old Covenant House Moses ruled was the Seed of Abraham, So Likewise the House Christ is over is the Seed of Abraham Gal 3:29

    29 And if ye be Christ's,[Church/House] then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

    And in Christ's House of Israel, House of Abraham's Seed, all racial barriers are done away with, so says Gal 3:28-29

    28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

    29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
     
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    Those made in the Image of God !

    Those made in the Image of God attain to that Image, not by being in Adam, but by being in Christ. The True Image of God that God is Proud of lies in our Christ likeness, who is the Image of God 2 Cor 4:4

    4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

    Heb 1:3

    3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high

    Col 1:15

    15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

    So herein, being made in the Image of God culminates in being conformed to the Image of Christ, the Firstborn Son Rom 8:29

    29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

    And this entails a inward work of the Holy Spirit to make it experimentally a reality 2 Cor 3:18

    18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

    Now this leads us to understand that Adam and his Seed/Generations in him at Creation, made in the Image of God Gen 1:26

    26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

    They could only be those who were before Creation, Chosen in Christ, Predestinated to be conformed to the Image of His Son Rom 8:29, who again is the Image of God 2 Cor 4:4

    4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

    And these are God's Elect Chosen in Christ before the foundation of the World Eph 1:4

    4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

    That had to be the foundation of being Made in the Image of God Gen 1:26 !
     
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    Salvation is made sure to all the Seed !

    Salvation in Christ has been Promised not to all men without exception, but only to a certain People, a Particular Seed, for we read in Isa 47:17,25

    17 But Israel shall be saved in the Lord with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

    25 In the Lord shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory.

    Justification and Salvation relatively the same, and again its promised to only a Seed !

    No, this Seed of Israel is not speaking of ethnic jews, Abraham's physical descendants according to the flesh, for they are not the Children of God, which are the Seed Rom 9:8

    That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

    It cannot be made any plainer that the jews, Abraham's physical children of the flesh, are not the seed as Per Isa 45:25

    25 In the Lord[Jesus Christ] shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory.

    The Seed therefore are those Chosen in Christ, whether jew or Gentile Rom 4:16

    Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

    The Promise of Salvation Isa 45:17 and Justification Isa 45:25 is sure to All the Seed, which denotes that its Limited to only a certain People in the World ! A certain People that includes bot jew and Gentiles !880
     
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    Salvation is made sure to all the Seed !2

    So whenever we read in scripture in regards to Salvation / Justification Blessings, and it speaks of All, it refers to All the Seed !

    Case in point, Paul writes to the Church of Corinth 1 Cor 6:11

    11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

    This Blessing is related to the Promise made to the Seed of Israel Isa 45:25

    25 In the Lord/in His Name shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory.

    Remember later Paul wrote to this same Justified Church 2 Cor 5:14-15

    14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:

    15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.

    The all for whom He died is all the Seed ! Thats how and why they are Justified in the Name of the Lord as Promised 1 Cor 6:11 !
     
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    God will not clear the Guilty !

    Ex 34:7

    Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear/acquit the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.

    But who are the Guilty before Him ? The Guilty are those Christ never knew, nor never died for, all such are Guikty before God, having not Christ as their Surety, meaning He was never for their sins liable to Gods Law and Justice ! So His Surety Death did not put away their sins before God's Law and Justice, never then had they been absolved of Guilt, But those for whom Christ died, it absolved them of all Guilt before God. It puts away the Guilt of sin and provides forgiveness of sins !

    Lets read Heb 1:3

    3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

    Notice how it is stated that He by Himself purged our sins ! Thats important, because the word purge is the greek word katharismos:

    cleansing, purifying, purification, literal, ceremonial, or moral; met: expiation.

    a cleansing from the guilt of sins

    All for whom Christ died, by His Death alone, not by their faith, not by His Resurrection, but by His Blood alone, it cleansed them from the guilt of their sins !

    That was a done deal as He took a Seat on the Right Hand of the Majesty on High !

    This means all their sins have been remitted, they are clear before God, again solely by His Death.

    So the Only Ones that are not clear, whom God will not acquit nor forgive, is those Christ never by His Death purged their sins as Per Heb 1:3 ! Because if He would have, God's Justice could not hold them Guilty !
     
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