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  1. Salty

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    Carrie Prejean, Miss California has made the news with her answer about same [email protected] marriage.
    (Four States have legalized - should all other States (or Commonwealths) do so?

    But:
    1. She never answered the question
    2. She paraded around in a skimpy bikini
    3. She profess to be a born again Christian (See # 2)
    4. She said she is not trying to push her belief on anyone

    Did she actually stand on her principals?
     
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    Hard to say if she is saved,but she did start to answer with a worldly view.....BUT stop and put on the breaks and corrected herself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYV1aBDH7cA Did you see the judges reaction? He was not happy his"gay bandwagon" wheels fell off!
     
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    No she did not stand on her principles, unless her principles don't come from the bible.
     
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    I say she did good and we shouldn't be so prudish, Christians are about the only one's that will devour their own. Here is what Dr. James White said about it.


    Miss USA: Christians Need Not Apply
     
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    She needs to sue to discourage future events such at this.
     
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    But did she actually come out and say [email protected] is wrong? No she did not!

    Carrie Prejean, said “We live in a land where you can choose same-sex marriage or opposite. And you know what, I think in my country, in my family, I think that I believe that a marriage should be between a man and a woman. No offense to anybody out there, but that’s how I was raised.”

    If I offend someone on that issue - so be it!!!

    To me thats similar to "I like ketchup and Rev Mitchell likes mustard." It is only a preference. Now if I could show you that mustard in unbiblical...

    I do realize that she was trying to answer a question she was unaware of in front of thousands.

    I had a similar situation. When I ran for city council, I was asked about school vouchers. I thought for a few seconds and then answered with my alloted 3 minutes, and there were no more than a hundred people or so.

    ( Yes, I do support school vouchers)

    Salty

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    So I suppose if would be fine for Robin Hood to continue on his mission
     
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    I question the morality of the whole "Miss U.S.A." Barbie doll contest, and think it silly that we look to a woman in a skimpy $12,000 bikini and high heels as anyone with a viable opinion on anything moral. And I'm just as disgusted that America values the opinion of the despicable Perez Hilton on anything at all. The whole thing makes me sick.



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    ETA, Standing on principals could be considered assault. PRINCIPLES are ethical guidelines, PRINCIPALS run schools.
     
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    You are right on Brother Curtis! :thumbs:
     
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    Thank you, Matt.

    We should keep in mind that Hitler also believed marriage should be between a man & a woman. I'm not comparing him to her, I am saying being against gay marriage is no measuring stick of faith, or morality.
     
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    This is where Miss California goes to College at:

    http://www.sdcc.edu/

    I think Christians like to judge a lot, even me.
     
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    The question seems to be asking whether or not more states should recognize this 'lifestyle' as a marital union. She answered the question without passing a judgement. Sadly she qualified the authority for her answer as being rooted in the values of her family and the way she was raised. Perhaps she was attempting to dodge passing judgement or identifying with Biblical beliefs....

    Perhaps, too, we are assuming too much based upon her answer or the credentials of her academic choice. It would not be the first time a morally upright person, with values, enters adulthood and has yet to establish within her own relationship with God, the certainty and force of where she stands on issues which are socially volitile, and which most churches avoid discussion and teachings. I suppose if I search and googled I might find more info on her background which might give me a different picture.... but based upon what little has been presented here..... It was not the most glorious answer which might have been given... but it was probably appropriate to the level of her experience and familiarity with the issue and the secular context in which she was in competition with others.

    She certainly did not give approval of marriage as being anything more or less than between a man and woman. She wasn't asked if it is right or wrong..... just whether or not states could pass laws..... and, in essence, she acknowledged that laws are passed by consensus of the voters.

    The content of her answer, whether it is politically correct or not, should not be part of the decision in the contest. If anything, the question should not have been allowed as it was politically motivated and designed to divide and inflame regardless of answer. The objective in judgement with such questions is whether or not she maintained her composure, poise, and grace under fire...... which she did. Who did or did not agree with her answer should not be material to her placing in the contest.



    Sometimes, we as Christians, have both opportunities and trials presented in taking part in the secular systems, which surround us and are a neccessary part of living in this world and participating in the work force etc. We can show our own maturity by remembering the lessons we've had in our own lives and displaying understanding and grace towards those who are younger and still processing their spiritual maturity. In the end..... would it have been better for a person with lessor values to stand where she stood and passed an open endorsement to the question? Essentially, if we're not careful with our criticism, we neither encourage younger Christians, but our critques can be destructive to their motivations and the opportunities which God might have intended for them to grow.
     
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    The problem is the question was predetermined and picked for her.

    Perez Hilton a known homosexual blogger who has made his claim to "fame" by keeping up with hollywood gossip delivered the quesiton and his official response to her answer was as ridiculous as the question itself. He's mad because she didn't kiss his gay rear.

    She was known for being against gay marriage before hand, openly speaking against it prior to the contest (the morality of the contest is irrevelant).

    She was most likely caught off guard with the line of quesitoning from the queen who asked it.

    The question was not out of line at all, him getting mad about her answer was out of line.

    Just my take.....
     
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    What are her principals? You would have to know those before you can ask if she stands on them or not.

    If she didn't prance around in a skimpy bikini then she would never be considered a contestant for the Miss Universe Contest.
     
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    She said she was very nervous and caught off guard in interviews she gave a much better answer.

    I must say I am not calling you out, I seen this comment before I really don't think the bikini was skimpy maybe I'm goofy
     
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    "The problem is the question was predetermined and picked for her." Didn't she reach her hand in a bowl and draw?
     
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    Yes, she reached her hand in the bowl, but the kicker was that all of the questions were the exact same one.

    So, how does this work, she draws the question and then someone ran the question over ther to the big queen and it was a "chance happening" that the question had to deal with "gay'n it up together in a civil union they want to call marriage"
     
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    I think she was flustered and didn't answer the question. I also think that she's being a poor loser. That's just my take.
     
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    I have heard some cheer for her stand.....others thought she was really lacking altogether. I guess my point is that the push for acceptance of "UNION" is creeping in everywhere. BTW Donald Trump is the circus ring leader who put Perez Hilton in the judges seat.
     
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    I personally don't have a problem with these Miss America pagents. I would like to know why they are asked about their views on political & social issues. Its not like they are running for office. Granted, if I were standing before the crowds, I wouldn't hold back my thoughts.

    When people other than politicians get political, you see a side of them that you totally don't expect & end up not liking them. I'll give you some examples:

    Jesse "The Body" Ventura - I liked him as an actor & as a wrestler, but I don't like him as a politician. That part of him tends to overshadow everything I liked about him.

    Rosie O'Donnell - At first, I thought she was descent before I started finding out things about her. She is VERY anti-Second Amendment. She is a homosexual. She has also been known to say things & end up with her foot in her mouth. In 1999, before the 2000 election, she stated that if G.W. Bush became president she would move out of the country. She never did though.

    I guess the point I am trying to get at is, the pagent officials need to stick with asking general questions as opposed to the more political ones.
     
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