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Discussion in 'News / Current Events' started by Magnetic Poles, Jan 5, 2010.
Big Sky Country makes it easier for folks to make their grand exit.
Despite what the law allows, I can't see how a spirit-filled Christian could end his/her own life.
Shame on that State.
I assume you're referring to those not affected by conditions such as bipolar disorder or similar condition which can compromise a person's decision-making proccess, and that you're referring to suicide in general.
Anyhoo, thumbs down on the state.
You shouldn't assume stuff, or try to put words in people's mouths. I said what I meant. I guess you need to elevate yourself morally, and intellectually.
Thumbs down on the other two, as well.
Physician assisted suicide has been going on for centuries. What has caused governments to create laws is the number of lawsuits against medical people. People are law-suit crazy. Not against such suicides.
This is not to negate what some have said about a believer agreeing to suicide. I agree that it is not always the correct choice, and my mind is beyond taking my life.
Whoa there, easy now. Are you saying that a spirit-filled Christian with bipolar disorder who commits suicide is sinning? Or was your comment directed expressly at those who seek physician assisted suicide as an answer?
Johnv, I won't explain myself. I offer no caveats. And a good way to keep nastiness out of a thread is to not try to clarify my posts.
Now you're just being infantile. The nastiness seems to be coming from you, which is amusing, given that your first post is a bit general in nature. I certainly hope you don't ever have to encounter the suicide of a friend or family member who sufferred from a severe mental or clinical condition.
You'll have to show me where depression is a liscence to sin, Johnv.
Perhaps then Mark Driscoll can offer a church-related service to instruct his depressed flock members how to end it all. After all, if it's not specifically a sin, why not ?
That's like saying "show me where having a cold is a license to have a runny nose". It's a nonsequitor. It's a sad fact that over 10% of persons afflicted with clinical depression commit suicide, and that 20% of persons afflicted with bipolar disorder will commit suicide. It's their disease that takes their life via suicide. To imply that they're sinning is the hight of ignorance.
Are you in junior high or something?
No Johnv. I just cannot stand your morally superior attitude. I find it highly offensive that you would feel the need to assume what I meant to say, and if you stop it, you will find me easier to talk to.
And no, clinical depression is no excuse for sin, and I challenge you to find one person in scripture who was not held responsible for their action. Unless you can, it is you adding to the Word of God. But then again, we all know how much you like to tell us what HE really meant to say. (women preachers, for instance)
May I add, that is one of the worst arguments I have ever heard. Equating sin to a runny nose, as to say it cannot be helped, is an example of the limp-wristed state of Christianity today.
Let's see, you're the one making a blanket statement, and I'm the one being morally superior. How laughable.
Reread my posts. I actually assumed you were talking only about those seeking physician suicide, an assumption that would be in your favor.
I never said it was. I said a person who, though no control of their own
Being responsible for one's actions is not the same as one's actions categorically being sin.
Since I haven't said anything to that effect, I'm not adding to the word of God. If, OTOH, you're saying that suicide is always a sin, regardless of the conditions surrounding it, you're adding to the Word of God.
Never said it was. I was equating your "depression as a license to sin" comment to "having a cold is a license to having a runny nose". Given your failure to discern conversation, I'm not surprised that you would make such a silly rebuttal.
I assume you're referring to those not affected by conditions such as bipolar disorder or similar condition which can compromise a person's decision-making proccess, and that you're referring to suicide in general."
I see only what is there. Double speak on your part cannot erase your words. Perhaps you should accept what people say, and not try to assume you know what they really meant.
Sorry, it should have read:
"I assume you're referring to those not affected by conditions such as bipolar disorder or similar condition which can compromise a person's decision-making proccess, and that you're referring to physician-assisted suicide in general."
Hope that clears it up.
I asked you to clarify. You refused, and came off with a snotty comment instead.
You did not ask, you assumed. Perhaps a question should end with a question mark.
I still see no question. I see you trying to speak for me.
I asked you in post 7, you refused to answer in post 8.
No, you didn't. You may have ended them with question marks, but you gave me a chance to decide between two presumptions.
You should read what I said, and accept it as what I wanted to say.
Since you choose to be a baby about it, let me ask more to yoru liking:
Was your comment directed expressly at those who seek physician assisted suicide as an answer?
What is yoru opinion on a spirit-filled Christian with bipolar disorder who commits suicide?