Most Hated Family in America

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  1. Ulsterman

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    I read about these people on this board in the past, now the BBC (Biased, Blasphemous & Corrupt) are going to give them national coverage, no doubt with a "aren't Baptists morons" slant.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6507971.stm
     
  2. fossilman

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    I don't know. From reading the article, it seemed that they were quite unbiased in their research. They never really mentioned that they were Baptists, and they certainly didn't say they were morons -- quite the opposite.

    I agree that that this family shouldn't be given any more coverage than necessary along with Anna Nicole Smith, Britney Spears, Michael Jackson, or any other way out whackjob.
     
  3. Ulsterman

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    I think you would have to know Louis Theroux and the BBC. Believe me, this will be a hatchet job.
     
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    ...And why not?

    Ulsterman;
    Why would you expect anything different from the world?

    While I don't agree with Phelps' methods, I certainly do not expect this old world to throw him a party either.

    We do not know if Phelps is saved or not. He says he is. Therefore we should EXPECT the world to hate him, his message, and His Saviour. And it should come as no surprise that they would do a story to "hatchet job" the man.

    In His service;
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  5. Ulsterman

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    Just watched the programme this evening. I don't think these people are saved. Phelps 21 year old grand daughter stated that she "feared the wrath of God, feared going to hell and hoped she would be among the righteous." Those interviewed referred to the Mosaic code, but no mention at all was made of the gospel. In the short excerpts shown of Phelps 'preaching' he never once made reference to the Scriptures, the whole thing was "God hates fags", "God hates America" etc., To be honest, they had all the hallmarks of a cult.

    I thought Theroux was fair in his appraisal of them (and I usually have no time for him, he is like the British equivalent of Michael Moore in his journalism, though not so slovenly in his appearance, nor so politically motivated, but he has the same "put down" everybody style). He made two interesting observations for a lost man. 1. These people held a skewered interpretation of the Bible, ans 2. there "not interested in winning souls to Christ", (his actual words).

    I suppose we'll have to see what the fall out is like among the lost folks we have contact with.

    No, Jim, I would not expect anything different from the world, but just hate it when Christians, (or so-called Christians) give them ammo to fire at us.
     
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    Satan's plan has always been to infiltrate Faith as "wolves in sheep's clothing" (Matt 7:15) and then to smear Faith before the duped eyes of the world.
     
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    Watching Phelps and Co just made me extremely angry about the perversion of the Gospel they preach; in fact, it's not even the Gospel - no mention of repentance, as Louis pointed out. Just "You're all gonna burn"; no "unless you repent..." afterwards. 'Gramps' Phelps himself seems an extremely bitter, angry and twisted individual who has fashioned his god in his own image and seeks to project this manufactured wrathful deity on all and sundry, including, most sickeningly of all, his own grandchildren.
     
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    Rob and I watched the programme and were saddened by the hatred the Phelps family projected. Homosexuality is wrong and a sin but there was no mention of the possibility of repentance and forgiveness. There was no preaching of the Good News and the love of Jesus - just so much hatred and the fact that they are right and everyone else is wrong. We found it to be very cultic and were disturbed by the use of the children, even a 7 year old at their demonstrations - child abuse surely?

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    I am not sure why fear of the Lord should be a hallmark of a cult. I don't think Phelps is right in what he is doing, but we should fear God regardless.
     
  10. Ulsterman

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    Why should I live in fear of God's wrath when I am "saved from the wrath to come"? These people were unsure of their own destiny, based their message strongly on the law, and condemned others whilst having apparently no certainty about their own eternal future. I shouldn't merely hope to be counted among God's righteous. If I am in Christ I am righteous, I am justified, and that is my sure standing.
     
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    Doing a hatchet job on Phelps is easy. It's time for Bible-believers to step up and call this man out for what he is. It saddens me to see the inearrant, infallible, inspired Word of God mocked by such a charlatan.
     
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    I'm wondering if many aren't calling him out for what he is and just aren't getting the coverage that he gets. We do a good job here of saying that he doesn't represent Baptists as a whole, doesn't represent the cause of Christ that we represent. I'd wager that many in pulpits and workplaces and ballfield coversations are saying the same thing. BUT since we aren't selling the sensational message that Phelps is, we don't get the media coverage. The question is, do we need that media coverage to be heard? I'm not sure we do as long as we are consistently and persistenly speaking out against this kind of tripe from Phelps or anyone who has so changed God's Word to make it unrecognizable.
     
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    Here is Louis Theroux's view on the Phelps clan:

    "I think that the pastor is not a very nice person. I think he's an angry person who's twisted the Bible and picked and chosen verses that support his anger, that sort of justify his anger, and he's instilled that in his children and they've passed it on to their children. Although the second and third generation are by and large quite nice people from what I saw, they still live under the influence of their Gramps."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6507971.stm
     
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    Wow! Whatever you were expecting Ulsterman, I think the reporter has hit this nail pretty much on the head.
     
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    I'd say you're right.
     
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    His "family" came to our town to protest a funeral
    of a local boy who was killed in a chopper crash
    in the US.

    My momma used to babysit him when he was a
    little boy.

    I picked up the phone and called their "church" and
    told them that what they did was beneath contempt
    and totally rude.
    The woman who picked up the phone started
    rattling off their party line and hung up on me.

    The "reverend" Phelps so vehemently hates
    homosexuals. Jesus died for them, too.

    There is an expose done on him and two of his
    sons who left the church where interviewed.
    It sounded as if they grew up in the Hanoi Hilton.
    I'd post a link, but the language is really rough
    (they were quoting their dad).

    Phelps and his "congregants" need our prayers.
    It is easy to hate them. Seeing them waving their
    signs that say "Thank God another soldier died"
    at the funeral of someone I knew makes it even
    harder to love them.
     
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    Marine Lance Cpl. Trevor Roberts was buried Monday.
    The memorial service was in the Eagle Heights Baptist Church,
    Trevor was the victim of an IED in the back of an Humvee.

    Two pictures grace the first page of THE NORMAN TRANSCRIPT
    for Tuesday, April 3, 2007. Way back at the end is an interesting
    statement:

    Not said was that the group protested
    over 2 hours before the memorial
    service at the church. Oklahoma has a law
    restricting the the time and distance of the
    ugly display from those who wish to
    memoralize the life of anybody.

    Page two also includes the picture of a
    member of a veterans' motorcycle group saluting
    the hearse as it entered the cemetary.

    Brother Roberts was going to become a foreign
    missionary after his Marine service.
    Thank you, Brother Cpt. Roberts for defending
    my right to worship God freely.
     

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