Featured Mrs. Rick Warren Preaching at Crystal Cathedral

have they rebuked his heritical teachings though, and not carried the self esteem Gospel message forward still?

 

Eph. 5:19 addressing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody to the Lord with your heart, 20 giving thanks always and for everything to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, 21 submitting to one another out of reverence for Christ.[/B]

Is my wife not a church member along with me? We are called to submit to one another.

BTW, Literal translation of v. 21-21:

"21 being submissive to one another in the fear of Christ, 22 the wives to their own husbands as to the lord."

The word "SUBMIT" isn't even in verse 22!

 

Submit to each others in the sense of family! being accountibility to keep each other walking as we should in Lord, being willing to forgive/confront each other!

Wives ONLY submit in the sense of biblical headship to the lord jesus and then to their husbands!

 

I don't know exactly how it works, I'm just making sure we are clear with what it actually says.

I'm guessing you already have an application of this you go by. Obviously in many churches, it doesn't work, because people are always fighting each other. I take this to mean much the same thing as "consider the interests of others more important than your own." (paraphrase).

Even strong headship proponents usually don't mean that the husband gets to order the wife around.

 

I think not.

 

Appears to be notta lotta likin' goin' on.

 

Well they fired him from the board and then fired his daughter - sounds kind of "rebukey".

Really would it matter who was preaching for them, you're going to find a reason not to like them, so what does it matter really?

 

NOT if they have decided to actually preach the REAL gospel, and real doctrines of the bible!

will fully commend them IF they have done that!