Murder in Argentina

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    Alberto Nisman was murdered in Buenos Aires.

    Alberto Nisman was a prosecutor working on a case from July 1994 where Iranian terrorists bombed a Jewish center in Buenos Aires and murdered 86 Jews.

    He found links between the Iranians and the President of Argentina Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner.

    It is unclear if the Russians, the Iranians, or Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner had him murdered.

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/kenneth-r-timmerman/death-of-a-prosecutor/
     
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    Cui bono . . . ?
     
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    Kirchner seems to want it covered up that she and her husband covered up the Iranian murder and injury of so many people 20 years. She is capable of having had Alberto Nisman murdered.
     
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    President Kirchner of Argentina ranting at the UN last October about the Jews. She is a major suspect in the murder of Alberto Nisman.
     
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    Nothing new in Argentina.
     
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    Apparently, Nisman left 500 pages of report of Iranian terrorist activity not only in Argentina but also throughout the Americas, including Iranian terror activity inside the USA. It is a wonder that he survived as long as he did.

    More later.
     
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    Excuse me for interrupting but I was just wondering why none of the links in your last two posts work?
     
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    Links work for me.
     
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    In his last two posts?
     
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    Posts 1 and 4, yes. Those were the only two that I saw.
     
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    Obama also wanted the investigation by Nisman stopped. It was pointing to much to Iran for the murders.

    Western diplomatic sources said the administration of President Barack Obama urged Argentina on several occasions to either stop or limit the investigation into the bombing of the Argentine-Israeli Mutual Association in Buenos Aires. The sources said the U.S. appeals marked one of the demands by Iran for a reconciliation with Washington, Middle East Newsline reported.

    http://www.worldtribune.com/2015/01...e-probe-iranian-leader-jewish-center-bombing/
     
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    Here is a link to this, Poncho:


    And just as the Obama administration was declaring the war on terror over, Nisman came out with a 500-page report in 2013 showing how Iran's influence had grown -- and how Iran had been behind several attacks on the U.S.

    Read More At Investor's Business Daily: http://news.investors.com/blogs-cap...argentina-matters-to-the-us.htm#ixzz3Pxl3AWd6
     
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    Here is the Jewish response to Kirchner's anti-Jewish diatribe at the UN, Poncho:

    “We feel hurt and worried. It was very surprising how she tried to make the Jewish community responsible for the failure of the case,” Julio Schlosser, president of DAIA, the country’s Jewish political umbrella, told local media.

    [What Kirchner said:]
    “The Jewish institutions that always support us, they turned against us,” Fernandez told the General Assembly. “We asked Iran to cooperate with the Argentinian Justice Ministry several times. Then we signed a Memorandum of Understanding which is a tool to cooperate. We want the Iranians to declare the facts to the judge. When we signed the agreement it seemed that the internal and external demons were unleashed. Jewish institutions who had accompanied us turned against us. When we decided to cooperate they accused us of complicity with the State of Iran.”


    https://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/...ident-de-kirchner-for-criticizing-jews-at-un/
     
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    Thank you for posting these links. Especially this one to "the ugly truth". I found this interesting article there.

    Jewish ex-Argentina minister faces probe in bombing

    Carlos Vladimir Corach allegedly paid $400,000 to an auto mechanic who provided the car bomb that blew up AMIA Jewish center

    ed note–So, an Argentine Jew is said to have paid off someone to bomb the AMIA Jewish Center in Buenos Aires in 1994 for which Iran was blamed. Argentina and Iran then sign a memorandum of understanding to open the case and investigate it and Jewish groups the world over are pissing their pants in the process?

    We now know why.

    https://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2013/07/01/jewish-ex-argentina-minister-faces-probe-in-bombing/

    Found the same article on other sites as well.

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-ex-argentina-minister-faces-probe-in-bombing/

    http://www.jta.org/2013/06/30/news-opinion/world/jewish-ex-argentina-govt-official-to-be-probed-in-amia-bombing

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/07/04/zionist-responsible-for-bombing-argentinian-amia-jewish-center/

    Very interesting wouldn't you agree?
     
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    I was just looking for Kirchner's rant at the UN and I lost my original source. I think that everyone knows that it was Iran and I regret quoting from a source that was anti-Semitic in nature.

    The fact that it was Iran is demonstrated by Obama's interest, linked above, as well as the attempted cover-up by the Kirchners--the cover-up being pursued in order to make an economic deal with Iran.

    The Kirchners admire Castro/Chavez/Maduro and are part of that league in a general sense. It has influence from Iran, China, and Russia, and favors repression of the general populations and military dictatorships.

    It is curious that the current Pope is silent on this issue.
     
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    I was just looking for the answer to my question.

    Cui bono? Who benefits?

    It's not a matter of "what everyone knows" it's a matter of what the evidence shows. So far there is very little evidence to show anything other than 85 people were killed by a bomb and the usual finger pointing. There is evidence of past Israeli false flag attacks to further it's agenda.

    I'm not saying that is the case here. What I am saying is it can't be ruled out.

    The Bush and Obama administrations favor repression of open investigations (see 9/11 and Fast and Furious) and dictatorships be they military or otherwise. Examples Saudi Arabia and it's Islamic extremist proxy fighters in Libya and Syria, a dictator in Uzbekistan that boiled people alive and neo nazi fascists in Ukraine.

    So, who benefits?
     
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    As I said before, the Kirchners benefited. They cut a deal with Iran for oil in spite of the fact that Iranian agents murdered Jews in Argentina and then they engaged in a cover-up of their doings and accused the Jews of bad faith. You even cited a Kirchner source that said that the Jews were responsible for the murders at the Jewish center in 1994.

    Then last week, Kirchner stood by and allowed her special prosecutor Alberto Nisman to be murdered--at first calling it a suicide and then admitting that it was a murder. Even Obama wanted this investigation stopped because of his "negotiations" with Iran and the fact that Nisman had found evidence of Iranian terror activity in the USA.

    Some of what Nisman found will be made public because he was able to e-mail 500 pages of his report to various others by using a special computer line that he had access to in his work--a mistake by Kirchner in allowing him to have that sort of secure computer connection.

    Finally, Nisman suspected that he was a target for assassination and said that if anything happened to him that he had secured the evidence and the report.
     
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    An Argentine court Thursday declared unconstitutional an agreement with Iran to probe the 1994 bombing of a Buenos Aires Jewish center, with a final decision left to the Supreme Court.

    The government vowed to appeal. It holds that Tehran was behind the attack on the Argentine Jewish Charities Federation, or AMIA, that left 85 people dead and 300 others injured two decades ago. “The ultimate interpreter of the constitution will be the Supreme Court,” said Justice Minister Julio Alak.

    In early 2013, Argentina’s congress approved, at the request of the executive branch, an agreement with Tehran to form a truth commission to investigate the bombing.

    The attorney general in the case, Alberto Nisman, had said the agreement constituted an “undue interference of the executive branch in the exclusive sphere of the judiciary.”


    https://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2014/05/16/argentine-court-bombing-probe-with-iran-unconstitutional/

    A "truth commission" to investigate the bombing?

    The accord between the two countries is strongly rejected by organizations representing the 300,000 members of Argentina’s Jewish community, the largest in Latin America.

    https://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2014/05/16/argentine-court-bombing-probe-with-iran-unconstitutional/

    No! Can't have no "truth commission" to investigate the bombing.

    Sounds like there is definitely a cover up going on. I have to wonder though who's covering for who?

    I know that "everyone knows" that Iran is the culprit. But then "everyone knew" that Russia invaded Ukraine, Iraq had an active nuclear weapons program, Syria used poison gas on it's own people and an anti Islam video on youtube was responsible for the attack in Benghazi that killed Stevens. Well, almost everyone.

    A few of us "crazy nut cases" questioned the official narrative on each of them. And it turned out Washington and the corporate media were lying in every case.

    There was no Russian invasion, Iraq didn't have an active nuclear weapons program, it was Washington's Al Qaeda allies that used the poison gas in Syria, and the CIA was either running weapons to Al Qaeda out of the compound in Benghazi or trying to buy back the weapons (missiles) Washington's Al Qaeda allies looted from Libya's stockpiles.
     
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