Murph saw the passion finally!!!!

Brother David,

Thanks for the note. To put it briefly my own opposition is to the film, not those who choose to go see it.

To me it is serious error. I do not think it can be claimed that "those who are not against us are for us" because the Catholic imagery and the Emmerich theology is a false gospel which is so strongly condemned in 2 John v9-11. The "doctrine of Christ" is determined by the "doctrine of the Church" is no longer pure doctrine.

The Catholic church denies the grace of God requiring works for salvation. According to Galatians, all the suffering which is apparently so clearly depicted in the movie was in vain, for the Catholic Church does indeed teach that "righteousness comes by the law" of the Catholic Church.

To those who choose to go, that is "no skin off my teeth". The issue is not about choosing to go or not, it is about the rightness or wrongness of the film itself.

 

Brother Roger----Thank you!

Brother David

 

Ditto both brothers!

 

Lady Eagle,

I noticed your Israeli flag and was wondering....are you Jewish?

 

LE:

It seems like you and a couple of other people on here have an obsession over this film. You are certainly not changing any minds with your long-winded posts using up band width. Cutting & pasting long passages of Scripture proves nothing, we are all pretty familiar with Scripture on the Fundy Forum, and they are your cuts & pastes to try to prove your point, which anyone can do about anything taken out of context.

The Word of God is not in question, it is the interpretation and application (by some) that is in question.

S&T:

Lady Eagle. Could you interpret this scripture for me please:

2Ti 3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

and also, how would you interpret the scripture below, in light of the scripture posted above:

Deu 18:10 There shall not be found among you [any one] that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, [or] that useth divination, [or] an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,


Wouldn't defending and supporting Mel and his movie, be the same as inviting him to be "among us"?

 

How does the world view this movie:

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/passionofnumbskullery26feb04.shtml

 

Ahh ok see I went and took this movie at face value. I saw the good in the movie where it clearly protrayed that it was indeed Jesus who had to suffer for us and not Mary, Mary being only a hurting onlooker/mother.

I viewed this movie much like how I precieve many churches I've been to. I might disagree with how they handle situations and feel many things are not right but knowing that they get the message of Jesus Christ to the unsaved world is fact enough for me to know God is using them.

Debating is fine, however be careful of condemning others for seeing or not seeing the movie or even being for or against it. Remember, it's a movie and this too shall pass.

 

I disagree with the "situation ethics" method of preaching the gospel.

When I was first saved way back in college I knew a girl who professed to be saved. The opportunity to witness came when she slept with guys then witnessed to them. True story here folks. Was her methodology "okay" since she had 2-3 guys make professions of faith? She definitely wasn't against Christ - she said she was for Him.

 

I had this sent to me.

I was particularly intrigued with the following statements:

"Mel continues: "Jesus died for all mankind, suffered for all of us. It's time to get back to that basic message. The world has gone nuts. We could all use a little more love, faith, hope, and forgiveness."

***That would be Only IF you join a catholic church will you get this salvation Mel is talking about though...

"Mel reveals why he produced this movie. He details the importance of his faith and the reasons this story - of all stories - needs to be shared with the world."

**** His story is the Catholic and Marian story...and that is what he shared with the world.

"In this exclusive interview Mel tells NewsMax why he decided to take on the Hollywood establishment to tell the true story of Jesus' death.

***What can be said? I always thought the Bible had it right.


Mel Gibson's Easter Message

Special from NewsMax.com

This weekend, Christians the world over celebrate Good Friday and Easter Sunday, the day Jesus of Nazareth rose from the dead.

You can share this special weekend with friends, family and young people by getting Mel Gibson's new book, The Passion: He Was Despised And Rejected - A Man of Sorrows, Acquainted with Bitterest Grief.

It is the companion book to Mel's movie, which may turn out to be one of the greatest movie hits of all time.

But Mel tells us that the Passion of Jesus, which Christians remember this weekend, is a story "about love, hope, faith, and forgiveness."

Mel continues: "Jesus died for all mankind, suffered for all of us. It's time to get back to that basic message. The world has gone nuts. We could all use a little more love, faith, hope, and forgiveness."

You can get Mel Gibson's The Passion book FREE - Link Here.

This elegant coffee-table book is fully illustrated with the most moving photographic images of the film.

Throughout the book, biblical verses and dialogue explain to the reader the story of Jesus' final 12 hours.

You will share in his suffering, passion, crucifixion, death and resurrection. This book also is a great teaching book for children and may be the most powerful re-telling of the passion of Jesus of Nazareth ever produced in print form.


You can show your support for Mel Gibson and his new movie by getting a copy of his new book.

Also, The Passion offers a special introduction from Mel Gibson. Mel reveals why he produced this movie. He details the importance of his faith and the reasons this story - of all stories - needs to be shared with the world.


You can also get NewsMax Magazine's special edition with Mel Gibson -- "Mel's Passion." In this exclusive interview Mel tells NewsMax why he decided to take on the Hollywood establishment to tell the true story of Jesus' death.

 

Good article on Newsmax, like usual. Thanks for posting it!

Thank you. You will notice the ones generally doing the "condemning" on here are the ones who are against the movie, not those who are for it. Red herrings abound.

 

LE:

Thank you. You will notice the ones generally doing the "condemning" on here are the ones who are against the movie, not those who are for it.

S&T:

Have you ever noticed that when you point a finger at others your thumb is pointing at you. Just an observation.

 

Who moderates the moderators if they condemn people for their opinions, verbally abuse them, call opposite opinions bashing or rantings or posting Scripture and wasting bandwidth or overall personally attack others?

Just wondering.

 

Maybe one of the moderators will kindly lock this thread since there is more heat than light being shed and since it has been linked to by another baptist forum of finger pointers.

 

Well that wouldn't really be fair would it LE? Since Murph won't have been able to read my responses to his many questions to me and respond back.

No need to apologise for your previous remarks to me. I understand where you are coming from.

 

LE:

Maybe one of the moderators will kindly lock this thread since there is more heat than light being shed and since it has been linked to by another baptist forum of finger pointers.

S&T:

Wouldn't this be, yet another form of censoring?

 

Lady Eagle,

While I disagree with you on the Passion film, I do think your point is valid.

If Murph wishes to reply he can reopen the thread, PM, or open another thread.

Censoring or not - this thread is closed.