Music Censorship in the USA

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  1. Gina B

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    That is what I was going to talk about, but SQUIRREL! While I was bringing up the links I wanted, I noticed something interesting that I missed a few years ago.

    Lebanon apparently banned a song by Lady Gaga, named "Judas," and they did so because it is offensive to Christianity. I looked further, and found they just said "nah" to the entire album, citing that song and overall bad taste.

    Here is the link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/06/lady-gagas-born-this-way-banned-lebanon_n_871647.html

    Pretty interesting! For all the censorship of songs by those in the United States, or recommendations to not put a song in rotation because it would be too sensitive during a certain time period, I haven't yet come across an instance where the United States showed concern that the lyrics would be offensive to Christians or Christianity.
     
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    It is unlikely you will. Now offend a Muslim; that is verboten!
     
  3. InTheLight

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    Name two instances where songs were censored. If there are so many, surely you can name two...
     
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    You can't just politely ask for some?
     
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    I wasn't aware that the government was censoring songs. I did know that the government required warning labels on some songs because of explicit lyrics.

    Could you please name some songs that have been censored?
     
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    "Cop Killer" was removed from Ice-T's "Body Count" disc, due to pressure from none other than Dan Quayle.

    That's one.
     
  7. thisnumbersdisconnected

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    That may have been a government official making a phone call, but that's not exactly "government censorship."
     
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    There are too many to list. It's not a secret and the information can easily be found online.

    Nixon strongly promoted banning quite a lot of music, so that's an interesting place to start.

    There are always a lot of songs that "disappear" from the radio during sensitive times when a national tragedy happens, or a war, if you pay attention. Those paying attention to music will notice in the news that sometimes there is an investigation or complaints over the songs that are taken out of rotation and concern that they're being banned instead of taken out of play. Clear Channel Communications is a major player in what you hear on the radio and is who you will hear being asked/questioned about the songs and how they determine if lyrics are questionable during certain time frames.

    Just go do a search. It's interesting to see what was banned and questioned decades ago vs now. Talk about a rapid decline. Or maybe not at all, just different words to say the same things?
     
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    So, you've got nothing. OK.

    If a privately owned company like Clear Channel decides to not play songs that is not censorship, that is adjusting their song rotations.

    I did. I didn't find anything. Help me out and name some songs that have been censored by the government.
     
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    Yep. She's got nothing. :thumbsup:
     
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    You can just go to my first post to see what I actually said.

    Again, do a search. It's not my fault if you're not competent enough to do an internet search. I love ya, but if you're smart enough to have signed on, I know you're capable of using a search engine. My first five results all gave great info and even gave suggested a book on the topic.

    If you're interested, you'll figure it out. If you're only interested in saying I'm wrong, then just don't look it up and remain uninformed. If you don't want to learn something new, that's your own personal issue. I thought the topic was interesting. Your desire to have someone else hand you information, after you expressed doubt in what I already said, is nothing but laziness. (do you guys realize how much you sound like teenagers half the time? :laugh: )
     
  12. thisnumbersdisconnected

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    Then why, for cryin' out loud, don't you just provide a link?? As you said, you signed on. It isn't that hard, and obviously you've done it before.
     
  13. Squire Robertsson

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    Gina, what search terms are you using? And yes a request for links is a proper one.
     
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    Squire, I linked what I was talking about in the first post. For songs censored or taken out of rotation, have you tried searching for "songs censored in the USA?" For songs that get taken out, try searching "Clear Channel suggested song removal." Check into who they are for why their opinions mean anything. Whether you think it's a positive or negative thing is a matter of opinion, as delving into history on matters of music will tell you. If you're seriously interesting in the topic, check out the music during the time of Nixon...which brings me to...it seriously is a vast amount of information, so I'm not sure if you're just messing around or you seriously can't find it.

    TND brought up "government censorship" then insisted I provide links about it. I've long since given up on his logic, but will say to go ahead and do a search on that too. You might be surprised. Do a search on "music censored in USA, government." "Government censorship of music, USA." Look under Nixon, that was fun, simply for the era and who and what, especially in comparison to what gets attention now vs then.

    Try "censorship of rock music, USA"
    Try "censorship of black musicians, USA"
    Look up stuff with Robeson, Seeger, Eminem, Lynn, Elvis, etc..

    Not playing TND's games, so I do hope you find what you're looking for, if you're serious about finding it. If you truly can't find the info and you want to know, send me a pm and I'll send you some links, but keep in mind that they are banned for a reason, so the majority of links have graphic language.
     
  15. thisnumbersdisconnected

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    On Google, I got one link -- just one: This thread.
    Ditto
    What kind of "stuff"?
    Expecting you to support the claims made in your posts isn't a "game," it is holding you to accountability, to which, apparently, you are unwilling to adhere. How disingenuous is that?
     
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  16. InTheLight

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    I was the one that brought up government censorship. If the government is not involved in removing a song it is NOT censorship. That's the whole point. If a radio station decides to pull a song, that's not censorship. It's a management decision. Or, for example, when Ed Sullivan made the Rolling Stones change their song from "Let's Spend the Night Together" to "Let's Spend Some Time Together" that was not censorship because the government was not the agent enforcing the change.

    You're the one playing games. You make an assertion and when asked for references, you tell us to look it up. How are we supposed to know exactly what you have in mind if you don't give us examples?

    And now you went and did a bunch of searches, again, and again did not provide links. Would it kill you to copy-and-paste a URL? Would you like me to condescendingly question whether or not you are smart enough to copy-and-paste something just as you wondered if I knew how to do an Internet search?

    We're adults here. We've heard graphic language. Just post some links showing government censorship of music.
     
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    OK, I just spent 5 minutes searching for Eminem censored censorship music lyrics, found one instance where city officials in Auburn Hills MI successfully got a court order stopping him from showing a video at his concert depicting nudity and a robbery because it could contribute to the delinquency of a minor.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/t/story?id=116435&ref=https://www.google.com/

    However, that is not music, it's not a song, it's a video.

    Now let's see your links please.
     
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    or Ed Sullivan's producer having Elvis shown from the waist up.
     
  19. InTheLight

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    OR musical acts putting out two versions of the same song, one for the album, one for radio play. This is not censorship. I presume these are the sorts of examples Gina B. was going to list but I guess we'll never know.
     

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