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MV`s compared to JW`s NWT

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by pilgrim2009, Jul 23, 2009.

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  1. Japheth10

    Japheth10 New Member

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    What do you have to say about this verse?


    Acts 18:24(ESV) Now a Jew named Apollos, a native of Alexandria, came to Ephesus. He was an eloquent man, competent in the Scriptures.
     
  2. Johnv

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    The original koine work is graphe (hos kai tas loipas graphas), which is what the greek Jews used to refer to as the revered writings of Judaism, generally known to us as the books of the Old Testament. Most of the NT at that time had not yet been penned, and none of it has been widely circulated.
     
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    Until that day arrives when we speak Skapekearian English, all Christians are entitled to a translation that is written in their native language. Since my language is contemporary English, I shall read a translation in contemporary English.
     
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    i also seem to recall that the Scripture that says "outta Egypt have i called my son" was applied to someone else who was "competent in the Scriptures."
     
  5. annsni

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    Hmm - wonder who what is. Oh right! Jesus!

    Also Joseph was brought to Egypt and protected by God - for a much greater purpose than what he ever could have imagined.

    God uses Egypt at times to protect that which is most precious.
     
  6. Amy.G

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    My native language is Tennessee southern draaawwallll. But I sure don't want my bible to read like I talk. Know whut ah mean ya'll? :laugh:
     
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    Standard contemporary English is the goal.(However, the ESV doesn't use standard English ironically.)
     
  8. Japheth10

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    But,would you agree that God called what Apollos had in EGYPT Scripture,despite of geographical proximity?
     
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  9. Amy.G

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    My southern accent isn't standard? It should be! :laugh:
     
  10. Forever settled in heaven

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    despite?

    maybe becos of!

    in Luke 4:16-28, the Alexandrian Bible that Jesus read out of is deemed this Scripture!
    assurance n comfort for Bible believers everywhere, but that's unlikely to quell the Edenic hiss fr the KJBOs.
     
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    Shore duz :smilewinkgrin:
     
  12. TC

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    KJVO 1 makes claim then KJVO 2 quotes KJVO 1 then KJVO 3 quotes KJVO 2 ... KJVO N quotes KJVO N-1 and finally KJVO 1 quotes KJVO N completing the circle. The claim is now fact and cannot be disputed. :type:
     
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    Pure speculation and opinion

    More guesswork and opinion. The fact that these terms were also used to address ordinary men and animals shoot that theory out of the water.

    Now your sounding Catholic. William Tyndale yearned to translate the Bible into simple English so that the unlearned ploughboy could read and understand the scriptures in his own language as well as the educated priests. You stand with the priests in declaring that the Bible must use higher speech than the ploughboy speaks. Maybe you are part of the Jesuit conspiracy. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    If it would help you understand the scriptures better I am sure it would be alright.
     
  15. franklinmonroe

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    Its been tried (Cotton Patch Version).
     
  16. TC

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    Forgot about that one. :)
     
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    Perhaps you jest, but unfortunately it seems to be true. I have looked for the evidence and I can't find it.

    I can't find reliable specific documentation that the early church had "great reverence" for their manuscripts of the Scriptures. Is that supposed to mean they practiced relic worship? How did they always know "early" that the manuscripts that they had were scripture? (I'm thinking about Philemon, for example)

    I can't find reliable specific documentation that when a copies of the Scriptures became tattered and worn, they were "carefully copied and then burned". Who started this practice? The Jews didn't do this with their damaged holy writ.

    I can't find reliable specific documentation that "certain sects" within early Christians preserved their manuscripts regardless of condition. Which cults? Name them, please. Why did they practice this? Was it because the Scriptures were precious to them and difficult to replace?
     
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    It would be jesting if it were not so true. I have tried to research many KJVO claims and the only documentation I can find for many claims are KJVO's quoting other KJVO's. I simply cannot find any supporting evidence outside of KJVO Websites.:(
     
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    Now THAT is the most accurate representation of the basis of the KJVO doctrine I have ever seen!
     
  20. pilgrim2009

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    No I am not part of the Jesuit conspiracy but it might shock you to know Billy Graham is.He bought the rights to the original Halley Bible Handbook which Zondervan manages and publishes.Billy Graham edited the Halley Bible handbook in 1964 and deleted roughly 40 pages that has the history of the Jesuits and the horror`s and history of the papacy.

    Many deny this since many cant put their hand on a pre 1964 Halley Bible handbook.I found in the library of my Church a 23rd edition 1962 Halley Bible handbook and when compared to the ones published today it is shocking to see what BGEA has done to the original by deleting things that Christians have a right to knowing.

    Billy Graham has been friends with Rome since the 1950`s and is a big factor in helping the modern day bibles replace the KJV Bible.Billy Graham has been a giant help in seeing the Jesuits plans come to fruition along with everyone else that loves the mystery of Iniquity {i.e.Romes heretical system of apostasy}

    Billy Graham has even denied in Christ the only way to the Father in heaven.

    Proof

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axxlXy6bLH0

    Yes Billy boy has been apostate for years and has been leading the lost sheep to Rome and her Jesuits has been working behind the curtain of Christianity laughing about it while gaining USA power all the way.

    Jack van Impe is another example of end time apostasy and has been flashing a NKJV on his Jack Van Impe presents show with its satanic logo of inverted 666 thats found on satanic Rock group albums.

    http://www.russpickett.com/rapture/rap04.htm


    http://www.av1611.org/nkjv.html


    What a crying shame to see these things and the people being lead astray and yet still denies the Jesuits or the apostasy in the Church.

    Jack van Impe has come out with a new dvd exposing the Illuminati and secret societies as the Freemasons claiming their New World Order is at hand while defending Rome as his brothers and sisters in Christ.Rome is the one that created these wicked organizations to confuse people of who`s out for world power and its Romes power that is out for another episode of the dark ages.

    Romes gospel is a gospel of bondage and works and idol worship and Romes Jesus is not the Jesus Christ of the Bible.Rome has not changed nor repented of her sins for molesting children through her priest nor for killing Christians and Jews in the holocaust under the satanic evil spirit of her Jesuit hitlers in her slaughter house.

    JVI is another Jesuit tool.Hal Lindsey`s daughters were educated in a Jesuit School.Tim Lahaye is a 33rd degree Mason right along with Billy Graham.Billy denies it but Masonic sources had him listed as one until he simply vanished off their list of Famous Masons.Masonic Symbols are found on Tim Lahayes cover that his prophecy study bible comes in along with one of his books.

    Proof:


    http://www.libertytothecaptives.net/tim_lahaye.html

    Keep on hiding your head in the sand and stay in denial on these conspiracy issues will not cause them to stop.

    Church wake up.
     
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