My Country Tis Of Thee... ANTI-CHRIST. (American Christians in belly of the Beast)

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  1. Michael111

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    AMERICA - the Beast of Revelation chapter 13

    Here are some thoughts given to me by the Word of God and the Holy Spirit about my country tis of thee... The prophet Daniel said that beasts are kingdoms: The anti-Christ is not a seven-headed, ten-horned man rising out of the sea; The rise of the anti-Christ is the rise of a powerful nation, completely fallen from Grace. As American courts uphold the blasphemous removal of the phrase "Under God" from its Pledge Of Allegiance - true believers in America are quickly realizing that they are in the belly of the Beast of Revelation.


    THE NEW WORLD ORDER - Columbus, and other European explorers discovered the 'New World' - the Americas - centuries ago. The U.S. dollar bill has the Latin slogan "Novus Ordo Seclorum" - which is translated: "a New Order Has Begun." Pretty bold isn't it? It seems the New World Order arrived without much fuss, or protest. More subtil than any other Beast. Big money talks... and controls the World Order.


    BUSH'S MIDDLE-EAST "ROADMAP TO PEACE" - One of the undisputed signs of the end is when the anti-Christ steps up to broker a middle-east peace agreement between Israel and Palestine. Look for America to exert peace upon this region via "peace-keeping" troops - fulfilling the "false peace" that the anti-Christ will attempt. The U.S. occupying the Holy Lands? Israel will be punished for this dangerous liason with the anti-Christ. This one speaks for itself.




    REMOVING "UNDER GOD" - The United States has "In God We Trust" planted firmly on its money. However, there is currently legislation in motion to remove the two words "Under God" from its Pledge of Allegiance. This will demonstrate true American allegiances: The U.S. wants God to make it rich, but doesn't want God's guidance, or protection! The prophet Daniel said beasts are kingdoms. Revelation 13:6 says the beast will open his mouth "in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name..." By removing the words "Under God" from our Pledge of Allegiance - we will blaspheme God before the eyes of the entire world! This will officialy break the Holy seal of God's protection of the U.S. This betrayal will completely unmask how Satanic this nation has become. 2 Peter 2:19 says "While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption:" Although we frequently speak ill of other religions... We will be - in effect - the only nation that blasphemed our own God. This betrayal will be met with our swift nuclear destruction, as the last remaining superpower on earth experiences the "Sum Of All Fears"


    THE GREAT SATAN - We've all wondered since 9-11 why many countries refer to us as the 'Great' Satan. Well, God led me back to the Garden Of Eden for an answer. We really do tempt the world with our Big Apple. Symbolic coincidence? The Big Apple is the home to the United Nations, Wall Street, the New York Stock Exchange, Madison Ave., International Corporate Headquarters, Mass Media Conglomerates... From these things - the entire world has been given a bite of the Big Apple. And most agree that the "apple" is a symbolic nickname for forbidden fruit. With explicit warning labels/ratings systems on much of our music and culture - we have become a forbidden temptation to the world. And due to global trade, marketing, and mass-media domination - we have caused the entire world to fall. As a parable for the fall of creation, and the temptation of sin: the story of Adam and Eve in Genesis is a bit of history repeating for the end-times. From beginning to end... it was the "apple".


    THE BIRTH OF A NATION 13 - John in Revelation 13:1 says: "I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea," This "sand of the sea" would be a coastline - and the "beast" John is witnessing is the birth of a powerful nation... the rise of a global superpower... one with the number 13 highly significant in its beginning. Hence, the symbolic importance of Revelation chapter 13 in identifying the rise of The United States Of America: 13 original colonies, 13 signers of the Declaration of Independence, 13 original states, 13 stars on original flag, 13 stripes on original flag, (and on and on)


    JERU.S.A.LEM - If God's own chosen nation was called a "Whore" by God himself, and then destroyed completely. Then, the end-times "Great Whore" of Revelation 17 and 18 is none other than our 'once-favored' nation that became rich from God's blessing, but has turned away from God to become an anti-Christian nation full of lust, violence, crime, scandal, gossip, gluttony. "The Almighty Dollar" and "Sex Sells" are the popular cultural slogans of a nation that has allowed itself to become a 'whorish spectacle'. What other nation today mirrors ancient Jerusalem pre-destruction? Once so blessed, now tempting God's wrath.


    THE US AS JUDAS - Judas was one of the 12 apostles called by Jesus. However, he sold his Savior out for money. He capitalized on the suffering, and death of an innocent man. The story of Judas is a parable for America: How greedy capitalism has caused a Christian nation to sell out God... all for the love of money! Keeping "In God We Trust" on our currency while removing him from our Pledge will make us the modern-day equivalent Judas - holding fast to our money while betraying God in the process. America was quite a nation, wasn't it.


    WHEN IN AMERICA, DO AS THE ROMANS DID - If the anti-Christ is to come out of a re-vived Holy Roman empire, then the world would only have to look as far as a colossal statue of a Roman goddess standing in the harbor of its largest city. With a Roman form of government (democracy), and state-of-the-art modern colisseums, ampitheaters, pavillions, etc... the U.S. is more Roman than even ancient Rome itself... And America's permissive, violent, and sexually tolerant culture could make Caligula blush.


    666 - if you calculate 6+6+6, you get 18. Which is the chapter in Revelation that speaks about the fall of Babylon the Great... chapter 13 is about the rise of the United States, and chapter 18 is about our fall. No matter how you calculate the number of the Beast, it comes up Babylon.


    THE FATHER OF ALL LIES - in just a few days span... the world found out that the most respected newspaper in the nation - New York Times published lies, Martha Stewart was indicted for Wall Street deception, a major sports figure was found using a banned baseball bat, Former First Lady Hillary Clinton released a best-selling book in which she speaks about her husband's infamous lies while President of the United States. And not to mention current charges that the Bush administration may have exaggerated the claims that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction in the first place. In one week in June - America seemed full of lies.


    As true believers in the belly of the Beast - Jesus is counting on his followers to turn this fallen nation around. Signs are everywhere: A shady, controversial Presidential election, an apocalyptic collapse of modern towers of Babel, a heavily-protested un-precedented war in Iraq, a blasphemous removal of God from our Pledge, and now a historic peace agreement: "Roadmap To Peace" to be brokered by the U.S. between Israel and Palestine (that believers all over the world are nervous about...) This post is not meant to inflame, but inform. As we remove God from this nation - God will remove us from the face of the earth. Right now this fallen nation should be praying for time!


    Strength to all the saints in Christ Jesus. The Kingdom of God is near.

    Michael111
     
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    ...As American courts uphold the blasphemous removal of the phrase "Under God" from its Pledge Of Allegiance - true believers in America are quickly realizing that they are in the belly of the Beast of Revelation...

    Since this commentary contains inaccuracies, I consider the whole to be inaccurate. The 9th circuit ruling regarding the pledge has been stayed pending review by the US Supreme Court. Until then, the words remain in the pledge as they have for 50 years.

    Of course, the commentary makes no comment about the fact that the phrase was added to the pledge relatively recently, as was "In God We Trust" on our money.

    Of course, we could resurrect the whole Muslim/Jewish/Christian arguement and say that the "God" in the pledge and out money is not the God of the Bible, so should be removed. But imagine the can of worms I'd be opening then :eek:
     
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    Michael,

    Where did you get this commentary?
     
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    Ahhhhhhhhhhhh. The art of private interpretation.

    Seems good to me. And why not? Biblically based and makes about as much sense as Premillenialism.

    Thanks for enlightenment.

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    Rev 13:1-2 1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
    2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

    The first beast rises up out of the sea. Water, in prophetic symbolism, represents peoples and nations and tongues. "Rev 17:15 15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues." This beast arises in the midst of multitudes, and nations and tongues.
    Verse two says that the beast has different body parts from the leopard, the bear, and the lion. the dragon is the one who gives the beast his power and authority. The leopard, the bear, and the lion, are the same three animals that depicted beasts, or kingdoms in the book of Daniel. We know that these three beasts represented Babylon, Medo Persia, and Greece. The next major kingdom or power in the earth was Rome. The fourth beast of Daniel 7 was Rome, in both it's pagan and papal form. This first beast of Revelation is also Rome, for it rises out of these other nations, and tongues, and peoples that we already know to be the same as those in the book of Daniel 7.
    The fourth beast of Daniel 7 was also dreadful and powerful. It also had ten horns just like this beast does. Verse 21 of Daniel seven says that the fourth beast made war with the saints and prevailed, so also this first beast in Rev. 13 is said to do the same," Rev 13:7 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindred's, and tongues, and nations."
    Verse 20 of Daniel seven says that the fourth beast had a mouth that spoke very great things. So also the first beast of Rev. 13 has a mouth speaking great things," Rev 13:6 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven."
    The fourth beast of Daniel seven also came out of the sea. This sea is a place of peoples, and nations, and tongues. It is what we now refer to as Europe. The fourth beast of Daniel was Rome, and as is made obvious by all of the similarities, the fourth beast of Daniel, and the first beast of Rev. 13 are one and the same. That is to say Rome, in her pagan and papal forms.

    Bye for now. Y. b. in C. Keith
     
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    And then of course there is always 12 divided by 3 time 10 divided by 2 times 45 .....

    What a riot!!

    In Christ,

    Bob
     
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    Michael111,

    I think you have wisely described the moral climate of our beloved nation, though I somewhat disagree with your concept of the Beast/Antichrist. Daniel prophecies of the different beasts have nothing to do with this unique and world predator who will soon be unleased on our world. The beasts of Daniel's prophecy have to do with major nations namely, The Babylonian Empire, the Media-Persian Empire, The Greek Empire and the Roman Empire who have ruled the world and now on that image that Daniel interprets we are down to the feet of said image. The ten toes will be the last ten nations of the revived Roman Empire that will rule the world under the dastardly predator called the antichrist. The end of all human wicked civilization will take place when the Rock/Stone [Daniel 2:35J] comes rolling down out of the mountain and destroys that image, which speaks of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. In verse 44 Christ our Rock will 'set up a Kingdom' which clearly speaks of Christ earthly, Millennial theocracy which will be on the earth for 1,000 years. [Rev. 20:2-7] Six times God makes reference to the 1,000 years. Yes, we are in the Kingdom of God now as Christians, but this future Kingdom will be Christ's also but notice He has to 'set it up.' The Bible clearly pictures the antichrist not as an indomitable nation or a woman, but a man. Revelation 13:18c pinpoints the antichrist as being a ' . . . man.'

    Revelation 13:1 ' . . . a beast rising up out of the sea' is the antichrist. A second beast appears in verse 11 has the nature of a 'lamb' who may well be a leader from the apostate church that is left on the earth when the rapture of the true church takes place. He is going to point to the first beast, a great and mighty world leader and tell the peoples of the world to worship this 'antichrist.'

    Many times as we study Scripture, as you know, the Devil tries to counterfeit the things of God. In Revelation we see the opposite of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. The antithesis of God is Satan, the counterfeit of Christ is the Antichrist, and the corresponding opposite of the Holy Spirit, our Teacher, [John 14:26] will be some conspicuous religious figure.
     
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    When I buy toilet paper at Costco, I buy the bulk packaging which contains three rows of 6 rolls each, which equals 18 rolls per package.

    Although Toilet Paper is mentioned in Revelation, I will continue to use it.
    :eek:
     
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    Michael111,

    I see what you are seeing in our nation. Is there anything we can collectively do to turn some things around? Sometimes I feel like this is about all I can do. Like the children's song in Sunday School, 'This little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine. This little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine, let it shine, let it shine, let it shine!'
     
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    John 5:28-29 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
    29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

    It is clear from the verses above, that both the wicked, and the saved will be resurrected. One, to the resurrection of life, and the other to the resurrection of damnation. The next question to be asked, is when, will these resurrections take place, and do they occur at the same time? The scriptures answer both of these questions.

    1Thes 4:13-18 13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
    14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
    15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
    16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
    17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
    18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

    1 Cor 15:20-26 20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
    21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
    22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
    23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
    24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
    25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
    26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

    The scriptures above point out that Christ’s followers will be raised at His coming. They will meet Christ in the clouds, and will be with Him forever. Verse 14 says- “ 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.” If we believe that Christ rose from the dead with a body, and went to heaven to be with His Father, then we can know, that he will do the same for us. We will be brought to heaven, body and spirit, with Christ, and will ever be with Him. This is the beginning of the thousand years reign with Christ. So what about the wicked, what happens to them at Christ’s coming? Let us examine the scriptures to see what Christ’s second coming means to the wicked.

    2 Pet 3:7 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

    2 Pet 3:10-13 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
    11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
    12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
    13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

    Zeph 1:14-17 14 The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.
    15 That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,
    16 A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities, and against the high towers.
    17 And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the LORD: and their blood shall be poured out as dust, and their
    flesh as the dung.
    18 Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the LORD's wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land.

    Rev 6:14-17 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
    15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
    16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
    17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

    The wicked, and all of their works, will be destroyed, by the brightness of Christ’s coming. When the Lord Returns, those who are Christ’s will go with Him to heaven, to reign for one thousand years. On the other hand, the wicked will be destroyed, along with all of the works of this world, at His coming. This is why Satan cannot deceive the nations any more during the thousand years. There are no nations, or people to deceive during this thousand year period. The Devil is bound to this desolated planet for one thousand years, with no one to deceive, because all the wicked have perished. He will be left to ponder the results of his own workings.

    Rev 20:1-3 1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
    2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
    3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

    Rev 20:4-6 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
    5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
    6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

    Again, those who are Christ’s, reign with him during this thousand years. However, the rest of the dead, that is the wicked who perished at Christ’s coming, live not again until the thousand years is finished ( verse 5 ). They did not take part in the first resurrection which took place at Christ’s coming, they are not blessed and holy, and they will die the second death ( verse 6 ). The wicked will take part in the second resurrection, which takes place when the new Jerusalem comes down to the earth at the end of the thousand years. It is at this time also, that Satan is loosed, and allowed to deceive the nations again ( verse 3 ). Of course, now Satan will have people to deceive again, because the wicked will have been raised in order to face their judgment, and die the second death. Satan and his followers will surround the city to attack it, but God will devour them with eternal fire.

    Rev 20:7-9 7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
    8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
    9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

    It is at the end of the thousand year period, that the New Jerusalem descends upon the earth. All the saved will be in it. When the wicked try to take the city, God will destroy them by fire. At this time, God will create a new heaven, and a new earth, where righteousness dwells. Sin and it’s originator, Satan, will be eradicated, never to appear again.

    Rev 21:9-10 9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
    10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

    Rev 21:22-24 22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
    23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
    24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

    God bless. Bye for now. Your brother in Christ, Keith.
     
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    European Union is the 10 horned Beast from which anti-christ will arise. Whether America is in the belly of that Beast or not is an interesting idea.

    Jim
     
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    jimraboin,

    I agree with your post. Do you think that the antichrist has to be a Jew/Israelite since some of the Jewish people, will accept and worship him as the Messiah?
     
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    If I may....

    I believe the Anti-Christ will have to be Jewish, since he makes a peace pact with Israel, and I really don't see them dealing with anyone who isn't Jewish.
     
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    However, dealing with the subject of the thread, I don't like numbers games. Like Johnv said, you could use it to make anything evil.
     
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    That's what Hal Lindsay ued to say. Back when there were 7 nations in it, he asserted that there would be ten, and no more than ten, nations, and that it was the "ten horned beast". He turned out to be wrong. Come to think of it, he's been wrong on numerous occaisions. So now, I've come to the conclusion that if Hal Lindsay said it, then it's most likely going to be wrong, based on his past track record.
     
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    I still think the Anti-Christ is Jack Chick.
     

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