My life has become a hell...what should i do?

The passage that was posted earlier about the lunatick proves it is not a sickness. It was clearly a demon that tormented the mind causing the flesh to act as an epileptic.

Jesus did not say the mind is sick and needs medical attention... NO, he said These things come out by prayer and fasting.. The Word of God said it is caused by a devil.

Pills cannot cast out a devil.
Psychiatrists cannot cast out a devil.

That which torments the mind whether it be depression, or madness, can only be cast out by the Lord for it is a spiritual battle, not a physical battle.

 

For that particular instance, yes that was demonic possession. Don't proof text because it just makes you look less intelligent than you probably are. Does demonic possession happen today, absolutely, and more than we think. But why don't we take this debate away from this person's cry for help and just focus on giving him words of encouragement and not tearing him down for doing what is right, making sure there is not a physical reason for his state.

Benz, I pray that you are getting the help that you need. I have been where you now are and know that the journey back is not short nor fun. Please remember, what I am about say comes from personal experience. Joy and happiness are both spiritual and physical in nature. If you make up your mind to focus on those things that are good and pure and holy and righteous and stay in the Psalms, especially those that were written by David when he was in the midst of depression. I believe that you will recover to be an effective minister of Christ.

 

The brain is a part of the body.
It, TOO, can become ill




Telling anyone not to seek medical attention when feeling suicidal is sickening. I thank god I didn't come to this board for help when it happened to me (though many are giving great advice, many are not)


Benz, I am proud of you for reaching out, that takes courage. I will add you to my prayers

 

Do you believe a demon can possess a Spirit filled, born again believer? I don't think that's possible. Depression or mental illness in the life of a believer is NOT caused by demon possession.

 

Suicidal thoughts... there ya go. Listen to the devil's lies that life is not worth living... that no one cares... that all will be better off without you.

Then instead of going to one who gives life and strength to resist the devil, go to a man who will try to tell you it is a family member's fault, or a chemical imbalance and give you pills to numb your body. '

Well, it only hides the devil in the deep dark recesses of the mind. It doesn't get rid of it. Only through Christ can one truly find deliverance from such.

The thief comes to steal, kill and destroy. Christ is come to give life, joy, and peace.

Go ahead and trust the psychiatrists and the pills... I will look to the Lord from which my help comes.

 

Devils cannot possess one who is born of God, but they can oppress them. They can lie to them and burden them to the point that they give in to sin.

 

I agree with that. I thought you were saying a Christian can be posessed. But, the Devil uses our sickness to his advantage, whether it's physical or mental. Some people contemplate suicide because of physical pain due to a physical problem. The Devil is lying to them as well, but I'm sure you would advise them to see a dr. for medical help. (?)

 

There is now a new thread. Can we please take this over there for Benz' sake? I wouldn't blame him if he never came back, actually.

 

For a physical problem, yes. For a mental problem, no. I would reccommend the Lord for that

 

This is exactly what I was talking about before HBSMN! Why is it so important for you to prove your point in this thread? Did you even think about how your post would come across to Benz? By all means tell him what you would do, offer him spiritual advice, but please take this debate to another thread. Suicidal are thoughts are nothing to play with. We may not agree with how Benz should handle his particular problem, and that is okay. However arguing about which course of action is right is not helping anyone, especially not Benz. His wellbeing must be our only priority in this thread. You have said you would not see a doctor for this type of problem, and I respect that although I do not agree. Let's just leave it at that and get back to focussing on our brother in need. I think we can both agree he is more important.

(FTR I am not trying to gang up on you. You are entitled to believe whatever you want. I am just very concerned for Benz. He is going through a very difficult time and his journey back will seem very long and overwhelming.)

 

As I said, FP,

You can choose to believe the world. I will trust Christ in this matter. I have no more to say.

 

Don't be ridiculous HBSMN. I have said from the start you are entitled to your own opinion. Please be so kind to extend to me the same courtesy. Just because I am of a different opinion does not mean I am choosing to believe the world. I trust Christ to guide me in all I do, and that includes any and every decision to see a medical specialist. My only problem with the discussion in this particular thread stemmed from my concern for Benz, not because of the differing opinions.

 

There are physical problems which exhibit as mental problems. I have a son with intermittant seizure disorder. Yes, he is profoundly retarded, but about two years ago, when he was 20, there was a sudden bizarre change in his behavior. He would be calm, placid, walking along and then suddenly turn on one of us and hit and wrench and pull hair and yank off our glasses. He wrenched Barry's head around so hard one time it took about two months for the pain in his shoulder to go away.

Another time, another place and maybe would have called it demon attacks or something similar. We were blessed enough to be put in touch with a pediatric psychiatrist who recognized the symptoms immediately. Chris' brain is short circuiting at times and these fierce anger episodes (which only last a few seconds at a time) are the result. The answer? A drug called trileptol, twice a day. Chris has evened out. He does not act drugged at all, but there are no more anger episodes, either.

In a similar way, induced chemical inbalances can cause severe, though usually short term, depression. Local anesthetics do that with me. Not when I get them, but when they are breaking down in my system, a day or two later. When I was little, after a trip to the dentist, I used to spend the afternoon sobbing on my bed. My mother called me a hypochondriac and a dramatist. It was not until I was in my FORTIES that a dentist finally was able to pinpoint what has happening -- after one episode where my son had sat on the edge of my bed a day after a trip to the dentist, afraid to leave the room, because I was truly suicidal due to that depression. A day later I was fine.

But what if the chemical inbalace is due to something more long-lasting? As was mentioned before, tumors can do this. So can a multitude of other things, including some types of allergies.

If depression is not your normal state and if the onset is severe and sudden and you can't get rid of it, please, please see a doctor. It may be as simple as an allergy or as dangerous as a tumor and there are at least a hundred things in between which can exacerbate a minor problem and make it threatening. Rule out the physical.

By all means take it to the Lord and ask for wisdom for you and for the doctors you are seeing. And if there is nothing physically wrong, then get out of the house and get to helping someone quick! Get your mind off of yourself and onto someone else, or a number of someone elses.

Love your neighbor as yourself is one of the best cures for non-physical depression there is. And it can really help you to love the Lord more, too! Reading the Bible is, of course, great and to be done on a daily basis. Living it is also to be done on a daily basis.

That way, even if there is a physical cause, you are still aiming in the right direction and the Lord can use whatever is going on to His glory and your benefit.

 

Didn't the Father give the Son power over all flesh?:godisgood: :jesus:

 

Hey Benz, I am still praying for you. Hope you have been doing better. :wavey: