My Prediction on the Fiscal Cliff--And it's Not Good for Republicans

Almost as comedic as you trying to make a dig under the guise of laughter.

 

Again, I could care less what it appears to you or anyone else like. There's a double standard on this board and some of you ARE CONSTANTLY calling anyone who doesn't think or vote the way you think is correct names. Y'all rail and call people dumb, ignorant, etc,.because of politics and there isn't a BIBLICAL reason #1 for it.

 

That's rich, comming from you. Oh, the irony! :laugh:

Zaac, you have a nice Saturday.

 

***Moderator note***

STICK TO THE DEBATE AT HAND, BOYS AND GIRLS!!

The debate insues the financial cliff----now---the question we need to ask about the cliff is

Is the cliff we're headed for----going UP----or DOWN??

 

As far as I am concerned, that post you made about the mental capacity of myself and four other posters warrants your permanent removal from this board.

 

The same goes for you. You should have been banned five months ago.

 

I would say it is impossible to predict three days before the end of the year if the fiscal cliff is going to happpen or not. The political games are out of control. It seems that neither side has any sense of what it means to govern. I think the most likely outcome is to come up with some minor "kick the can" agreement either right before the deadline or a few days after. Nothing will be solved and we will revisit this in a matter of months.

 

I would say what has brought us to this point is an ideological president and an irresponsible Senate, both of which have routinely disobeyed even the most basic of laws and simply did not pass...

A BUDGET!!!!

In 4 years!

Incredible!:BangHead:

 

Agree with that, and always want to make it clear that while I blame some of the political games on the Republicans as far as governing in general, thank goodness the liberals do not have control of the House.

 

I will. Your attempt to play off your hypocrisy with laughter lets me know that you got it.:thumbsup:

 

I didn't. You did.:smilewinkgrin:

And your behavior tells a different story about you too.

And just another excuse from you to not admit to the personal attacks and name calling that come from you and others when folks don't agree with your politics.

So if it's fine that everybody who voted for the false god worshiping Romney can be called dumb and brain dead, selfish and morally deficient and the words are allowed to stay on the board, then I guess we're good.

But then again, we all know what happens if you say that anyone who voted for Romney is a big dummy.

We all know what happens if you say that anyone who voted for Romney is a brain dead.

We all know what happens if you say that anyone who voted for Romney is selfish.

We all know what happens if you say that anyone who voted for Romney is morally deficient.

So whining? Nope except from the ones still angry about an election. Just calling a spade a spade and that's the problem the lot of you have had with me from day 1. But I'm good.:laugh:

 

What we have is a New Congress that has seen the Constitution trampled on by the Judicial and the Executive Branches of government and decided that if the other two branches are gonna break the law and operate according to their own version of the rules, then why can't the legislative branch do it too?

 

Not quite the word I would use, more like an infection.

 

The main thing we all want is a functional government, that abides by the Constitution. Although it has problems, the House comes closer to achieving this goal than either the President or the Senate. If we did our jobs like Congressmen do, we would not have to wait until the next election to lose our job. How many jobs allow one to be off more days than they work, then, when they do work, they accomplish nothing. This goes far beyond the liberal-conservative debate. This has to do with integrity and competence. It also has to do with leadership. The place where the overall direction should be coming from, the President, provides no leadership. The leadership in the Senate is a disgrace, Reid and McConnell. Mitch McConnell is a RINO, and opposed the election of Senator Paul. The voters decided otherwise. Reid is what we expect, a liberal, amoral socialist. The person in the toughest position right now is the Speaker of the House. He has to deal with the Tea Party and the RINOs from his own party, plus crafting a bill that is acceptable to the other side. I would not want to be in his shoes. However, no one forced him to seek the job. So now he has it, and all that it brings.

With all of the money in government that is being wasted, abused, and downright fraud, it is hard to see why it is so difficult to come up with a bill that solves a lot of these problems. First of all, although not a lot, the money for the UN should be cut off. Money that supports any illegal alien should be cut off. For Social Security, if you have collected more than you put in, it should be cut off. It is not the American tax payer's problem to subsidize those who did not plan for retirement. Any money from the US Treasury that is going to any interest in Muslim nations should be stopped. PBS should be eliminated. Medicare should be means tested. The Department of Education, EPA, OSHA should be a state function should be abolished and transferred to the states. The State Department does not require an elaborate embassy in every nation. That money should be greatly curtailed. I cannot even imagine the savings of money that would be realized from people who could work and will not in their 20s, 30s, and 40s, that sit around on their dead butts daily and do nothing , but collect government assistance, but it has to be in the billions.

Congressmen and the President, along with the rest of the Executive Branch, should have the same retirement as other federal employees. What have they done to deserve a lifetime pension for four years of work? Former Presidents do not need a lifetime of protection. Vice-Presidents need none. With all the bribery they committed during their terms, no doubt they can afford private body guards.

Finally, the biggest savings goes to staying out of conflicts that do not affect our national security and interests. If we must fight, fight to win, exit, and do no rebuild.

These are a few proposals from an average citizen. It is no problem to balance the budget.

 

Sure, it's fine. Especially if it comes from you and your ilk.

You really have nothing positive to offer us,starting with your constant Mormon hating posts.

Whine some more. I'm enjoying it.:laugh:

 

This assumes that the powers that be still want a functional government. If it's not functional, it lends itself to power resting with fewer people.

 

I have said that many times, yet you still tell me and others that we are unsaved. That is because in reality, you are a liberal, socialist, Democrat apologist. You have done nothing but the time on this board but demean the character of highly intelligent, Christian, God loving posters, for going on seven months. I consider you an evil, manipulating, self serving person that is here for no reason but to destroy the character of fine of honest Christians. All I can say for you is that it is a good thing for you I have no decision power on who stays and who goes.