I posted this in another thread, but it really wasn't the point of the thread so I'm going to give it it's own thread. If it doesn't depend on us to believe in him then what's the point? What would be the point in Jesus doing what he did if God could just make everyone saved? That's the whole point is that we find ourselves in our unrighteousness missing something and we make the conscience effort to accept him as our savior. God doesn't want a person on this earth to go to hell. No not one. So if Calvinism is true why would he elect just certain people, why not all people? Are you saying he's not powerful enough to save all? Or are you saying that he doesn't love everyone? Or that he loves some more then others? Or is their a capacity limit in heaven? The blood is efficient and sufficient regardless of our choice. If someone chooses to give someone a million dollars in this country but it's up to you to submit your claim to get it, then it's basically being left up to you. It's kind of like look I'm giving you this awesome gift but you've got to at least come get it. Saying that it's man's choice to accept Christ is not in any way downplaying what Christ did for us. It's the simple fact that God gives us the choice, and if we choose not to accept, as foolish as it may be then it's our catastrophic loss. If we don't have the choice then what's the point of even living this life? Look I know not all calvinists are anti-witnessing or anti-missions, but really if God has already elected certain people and they will be saved no matter what, then what's the point? Like I said the blood is effective, it's up to us to go choose it. God loves us, but like a supreme parent says look I'm not going to make that choice for you, you're going to have to do that.