Featured N. T. Wright on women bishops

Maybe I should preface that I am an evangelical more than I am a baptist (similar to someone saying he is a Virginian first before an American). I am baptistic in my theology and part of the SBC. But I'm not baptist be/c it is the end all be all denomination. I don't think being baptist is all that great of a thing. I can get along w/ many different kinds of evangelicals.

 

Most of us will buy into a person's work if we agree with him or agree with most of what he has to say. If I recall correctly of what I was taught that is what happen with the German higher criticism, many held many of them highly as great theologians. That might have started in the late 1800's but the harm is still here, look at many of our seminaries.

I've ready some of Wright's work and I'm not in his camp. I try and read a few books of someone I disagree with before I say much about them and of what I've read of his book, we can say I'm not in his camp or would I recommend his work to others.

 

Then we certainly have a large difference in starting points when it comes to theology. For me, baptist theology is not the end all be all of determining good theology. So we have a much different perspective from one another determining good theology from bad. Certainly, we would both claim that Bible is the final arbiter, but as this thread demonstrates, that has not been the case with either of us.

 

He didn't say it was. What an arrogant statement.

 

Don't misunderstand. I am clarifying my view, not his. And how arrogant is it to accuse of arrogance when we are only typing? You don't know my tone. I'm sick of having to defend my words b/c so many don't take the time to assume better of the person behind the keyboard. We all (myself included) need to be more Christ-like in this regard.

 

Tone has nothing to do with hit.

This implies that Baptist theology is the end all be all for him.

Oh you must mean like this:

http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=1928266&postcount=17

By the way I do not bash Wright.

 

And yet again...

I did include myself as those who need to improve. Or did you miss that???

And thomas15 said he is more baptistic than baptists. So what can I make of that but we have very different starting points, and for him baptist theology is the beginning of his. So I think it is reasonable to assert that he thinks baptist theology is the bees knees. But since tone has nothing to do with it, then back off. How ironic that you accused me of arrogance and yet say tone has nothing to do with it. I'm calling hogwash on that one! How else do you determine arrogance if not through tone. I could say something arrogantly ("I am amazing") and my tone could change it if meant in sarcasm. I can't believe I am defending myself more. This is asinine.

BTW... did anyone accuse you of bashing Wright???

 

You deny the infallibility of Scripture?

And I don't mean to imply that dispensationalism is the unacademic view. Many dispies are very academic (I like to think I used to be one having published a few articles in theological journals while a dispensationalist). I didn't even know this was about dispensationalism. I just want to know what of Wright you have read to make some of the sweeping statements you've made. Is it just that one book you mentioned? Did you read the entire book? Are there others? If so, which?

I realized I've never listed what of Wright's I've read.
New Testament and the People of God
Jesus and the Victory of God
(planning on reading part 3 Resurrection of the Son of God & Climax of the Covenants this summer)
Justification
Surprised by Hope
How God Became King
The Challenge of Jesus
and various journal articles he has written that I can get my hands on

 

Listing them serves no purpose except to prove to you whatever it is you want proved. Deal with the criticism itself and not attack the person criticizing. This is a distraction with nothing substantive.

 

Tell me, sir, what is the criticism??? Cause I don't know anymore. Do you?

I was trying to be fair. It is hard to be fair and ask someone to list something that I myself have not listed. So instead of thinking so ill of me and that everything I do must be malicious, try being a bit more objective. I was being genuine and altruistic.

And so far, what of substance have you offered except being critical of me? You have got to be one of the bigger hypocrites here. You accuse me of lacking purpose, attacking the person, and distraction. But that sounds a lot like you and your responses to me. Just stop responding to me. I'm finished with you.