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Narnia's Earnings?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by nate, Dec 17, 2005.

  1. eloidalmanutha

    eloidalmanutha New Member

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    I always thought the Bible and the Christian faith were all about the gospel. If you are presenting true Christianity in any venue or form - that is the Gospel. What we think and choose to view is the Gospel living in us.

    I would have to disagree that the Christian faith is about morality and a struggle of good against evil. Jesus did not die so that good could overcome evil, because it dosen't. Evil will be in this world until He comes back. Jesus died for our sin, to reconcile us to God.

    ps: yes, I have read the books - many times actually. I was taught that they were Scriptural books based on the allegory of Jesus as Aslan, and that it was all an allegory of the Gospel.
     
  2. Helen

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    One can explore all manner of things in the Bible without explicitely presenting the Gospel! If you study the Flood, for example, you are not studying the Gospel per se, although it points to the Gospel.

    Lewis studies, for the children, the effects of obedience, of resisting temptation, of honesty, and of other virtues. You are against this?

    By the way, I did not say that the Christian faith is ABOUT morality and the struggle of good against evil. Please don't put words in my mouth or imply them in my posts.

    But that struggle is one we are all familiar with and the children are aware of it, too. By dealing with it in the context he does, Lewis helps them understand it and the ramifications of some other ELEMENTS involved in the Christian faith.

    It is not meant to be Gospel. It does, however, point to the Gospel. And that is a good thing, not a bad one.
     
  3. eloidalmanutha

    eloidalmanutha New Member

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    ahhh yes . . . circular thinking - please be careful -
    you could spin out of control :rolleyes:
     
  4. Phillip

    Phillip <b>Moderator</b>

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    GIVE ME A BREAK.

    Helen, I went to see Narnia again. It was amazing how many things I didn't catch the first go-round.

    This is a GREAT movie for kids. Although there is some violence, it is typically less than what you see in thirty minutes of Saturday morning cartoons.

    EXCELLENT morals being taught.
     
  5. Boanerges

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    Exactly, that is why my children did not watch Saturday morning cartoons. I opted for stories of the Bible instead. Comparing the world (Narnia) to the world (saturday morning cartoons) is not how the standard of what is righteousness should be established.
     
  6. nate

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    Domestic: $174,359,262
    Worldwide: $253,221,262
     
  7. Helen

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    If Disney does The Silver Chair, or Voyage of the Dawn Treader, I am betting they will do an outstanding job with the special effects. I hope they stay on track with the story line and the dialogue....
     
  8. Gina B

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    The Bible isn't violent?
    Try READING it.
    Babies murdered, women raped, descriptions of acts of adultery, bloodshed, traitors, demons, a decription of evil as evil as it gets and goodness beyond imagination.

    Once again...you're tottering!

    [​IMG]
     
  9. standingfirminChrist

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    Helen wrote:
    Forget reading Mythological books. Pick up the Word of God. The Bible will feed your soul, the Iliad, Odyssey and Mythologies will destroy it.
     
  10. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Thats kind of how I viewed it Philip. I am not a big cinema goer and did not really want to go. But with the whole family home for Christmas and €5 tickets for a matinee they talked me into it.

    As a Christian I did notice several subtle references to the Bible. Certainly not enough to build a theology, but it was "nice" to see them.

    I would certainly not try to use it as an evangelistic tool, I would not do that with any Hollywood film. It has however drawn people to ask me my views on the Christian themes involved.

    It was a nice movie, with a nice moral message, and was an enjoyable afternoon with the family. Its as simple as that.

    Well worth our adding €5 each to its earnings.
     
  11. Rachel

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    The Bible isn't violent?
    Try READING it.
    Babies murdered, women raped, descriptions of acts of adultery, bloodshed, traitors, demons, a decription of evil as evil as it gets and goodness beyond imagination.

    Once again...you're tottering!

    [​IMG] [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]Gina you kill me! ;) [​IMG] I agree with ya.
     
  12. Helen

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    Forget reading Mythological books. Pick up the Word of God. The Bible will feed your soul, the Iliad, Odyssey and Mythologies will destroy it. </font>[/QUOTE]We read the Bible. We have Bible studies here in our home.

    I have also spent years studying the mythologies of different cultures and I enjoy it. You know why? Because when I peel away the mythological factors, I find they are remembering historical events -- the same that are in the Bible. It shows me that God truly does and has love/loved the entire world and is not willing that one should perish! In many cultures, in strange ways, His message stayed long enough for the Incarnation to be accomplished and missionaries to get to these cultures to 'complete' the bits and pieces they remembered of the truth, thus leading them to Christ.

    I find all of that terribly exciting and joyful. I also find myself deeply appreciating other people around the world from different times.

    I have no more fear of reading mythologies and histories and legends than of breathing. I know the Bible is the truth. I know that God is God. I also know that people through the ages have tried to remember, in their cultural stories, the truths passed down to them from the time of Noah, who was great, great.....great grandfather to us all.

    While I disagree with some of Lewis' theology, I understand why he thought the way he did. And I know he knows the truth now! And I also know that when I am in heaven I will find where I also have been wrong and will be humbled before the truth.

    Those of us who will be in heaven will all be in that position. Best, perhaps, to practice humility now so it won't be a strange thing when we get there?

    Seeking to understand other people is not a bad thing, you know...
     
  13. nate

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    Prince Caspian is in the works now and I believe they only have plans to do the Last Battle. But I hope they do a few of the others.
     
  14. ccrobinson

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    I'm not sure why they wouldn't do The Voyage of the Dawn Treader, unless getting everything in would make the movie too long. That book really captures the imagination, arguably more than any of the others.

    Sure, if the reader lacks maturity and discernment, and holds those books up to the same level of Scripture, there is a problem. If not, then there is nothing to fear from reading other books.
     
  15. nate

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    The thing is it will take them about two years a movie so by the time they are finished with The Last Battle the kids will all be six years older which might push the limits although Lucy and Edmund are the only two in the Dawn Treader. It's amazing though TLWW has beaten Kong every day this week. It just can't top it on the weekends. TLWW official earnings as of Friday~~
    Domestic: $201,651,000
    Worldwide: $280,513,000
     
  16. nate

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    It should top 300 Million this weekend. BTW what do you guys think of The Horse and His Boy I rather enjoyed that book and it only has a grown up-Susan,Edmund,and Lucy. That would be a good movie. I hope they make it.
     
  17. nate

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    As of January 2.
    Domestic: $224,839,000
    Worldwide: $381,539,000
    It also beat Kong this weekend. Narnia is in it's 4th weekend and it enjoyed it's second #1 weekend. It's been out now for 25 days. Here's an interesting story. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=1975&p=.htm
     
  18. Brother Ian

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    I continue to be amazed at the, "There's a snake under every rock" mentality displayed by some posters on this board.

    There are good morals and values displayed in the movie. There are parallels to Christianity in the movies and the characters. Disney, I am certain, did not make the movie to draw people to Christ. They made the movie so they could cash in on a great story.
     
  19. nate

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    I agree. If you read the books you can't help but see the Christian allegory. Especially in the Last battle and The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe.
     
  20. Bunyon

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    "I continue to be amazed at the, "There's a snake under every rock" mentality displayed by some posters on this board.

    There are good morals and values displayed in the movie. There are parallels to Christianity in the movies and the characters. Disney, I am certain, did not make the movie to draw people to Christ. They made the movie so they could cash in on a great story."---------------------------------------------------------------------

    Disney did not make the movie, they just distributed it. They just branded it. The movie was produced by Walden Media which is owned by a Christian billianair as I understand it.
     
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