NASB is wrong

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  1. Askjo

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    It will be helpful for you to see that the NASB is wrong. Go to find Q & A below.

    Click here: Stripes VS scourging
    This is an excellent expository refutation.

    [ March 12, 2005, 11:24 AM: Message edited by: Phillip ]
     
  2. natters

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    Perhaps you can summarize your point for us.
     
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    Bah, Humbug!

    Scourging causes stripes.
     
  4. Ed Edwards

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    Fortunately, it does not load.
     
  5. Craigbythesea

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    It does download, but it is an article about some "R" rated movie :eek: . I thought this was a Christian message board! [​IMG]

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    How so? Care to explain?
     
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    still times out before loading???
     
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    Loaded for me, but I honestly didn't want to read the whole thing.

    What's the "argument"?
     
  9. HankD

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    The download I got was for a book: Showtime for the Sheep, Author: T.A. McMahon, Publication Date: 5/1/2004.

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  10. Spoudazo

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    I still don't get it, so I'm going to make a statement:

    The KJV is wrong,
    Acts 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
     
  11. rsr

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    To put it briefly:

    Scourging signifies physical punishment, which alone would not provide propitiation. The punishment had to be spiritual. Thus the NASB, by equating the punishment with scourging (a physical punishment) is wrong because the actual punishment was paid on the cross in separation from the Father.

    The author says the word translated stripes appears five other times and means blow. I looked up the references and found the word was trnaslated wound three times and stripes three times in the KJV.

    And how did the KJV translators define stripe?

    Luke 12:48

    So, contrary to the author's extended opinion, it appears the KJV translators mean the same thing by stripes as the NASB translators did by scourging.

    Brother Asko, do you actually read the things you post?
     
  12. Phillip

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    Asko, I tried to fix the link above, but the problem appears to be at the target end. Is it really supposed to be an article about the Passion or is the newsletter changing?

    I read quite a bit and didn't see the issue, unless you are just referring to what was referred to in the movie and relating it to the NASB. Would you please check the link and see if it is STILL correct or see if they are changing newsletters at that particular link as time goes on?

    Thank you,
    Phillip
     
  13. rsr

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    The assertion in question is with the Q&A on page 5 of the newsletter PFD. (Page 3 if you ignore the first two pages of the advertisement.)
     
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    I think this argument is about as weak if not weaker than the "new versions call Joseph Jesus' father" even though the KJV does the same thing in more than one place.

    It's just inconsistent, right Ed? [​IMG]
     
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    Weaker, in fact.
     
  16. Craigbythesea

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    rsr,

    Where in the NASB does it incorrectly do this?

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    Both the KJV and NASB (and every other translation that I know of) use physical punishment as a metaphor for the suffering of Christ, whether spiritual or physical.

    Neither is "wrong." It is the author of the piece in the OP who claims otherwise.
     
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    Almost ALL KJVO arguments are inconsistent, not supported by fact, certainly not supported by SCRIPTURE. This is just another such argument consisting of nothing but imagination, conjecture, and guesswork. As old Clara useta say, "WHERE'S THE BEEF?"

    Scourging makes stripe-like wounds, hence the rendering "stripes" for that kind of wound. Jesus WAS scourged, as Isaiah had prophesied, and in this case stripes are wounds, so I fail to see any logic at all to this whole thread. As usual, this is a KJVO thingie without any factual support. Stripes, wounds, scourging, whipping, etc. are all equally correct.
     
  19. Ransom

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    rsr summarized:

    Scourging signifies physical punishment, which alone would not provide propitiation. The punishment had to be spiritual.

    Were the lambs whose sacrifice Jesus' was patterned after suffer "spiritually"? This is pretty dodgy reasoning. (Considering the source, I guess I shouldn't be surprised.)
     
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    Has anyone yet noticed that Askjo has again, "hit and run"? No reply since he posted the OP.
     

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