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National Abortion Rights Action League Backs Obama

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Palatka51, May 14, 2008.

  1. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
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    I dont listen to much CCm as most of it comes out of the WOF movement. But this group caught my attention some time back. They are probably one of the most theologically sound ccm groups out there. I havent heard this one but will go get it. Thanks!
     
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    No where did I say people are going to Hell because of the way they vote...

    If a person is a Christian they will be in Heaven....
    But if a person THAT IS A CHRISTIAN votes for a pro-abortion candidate, they will give account at the Judgment seat of Christ.

    If a lost person votes for Obama, they will give account at the Great White throne judgment.

    Be ready to explain to Christ why you voted for Obama, when he supports the evil he does in the name of social justice.

    Be ready to look in Jesus' eyes and tell him why you voted to keep abortion legal.

    Killing an innocent baby is not the same as wartime killings.
    Our men and women in uniform are protecting us from terrorists, and the everyone that wants to see you killed.

    No one wants the innocent killed in war, but it is inevitable when countries like Afgahanistan, Iraq, and Iran allow terrorists of the United States to live and prosper there.

    God says there is a time for war....

    But no where did he ever condone killing a baby because the mother and father were too stupid to say "wait". or too stupid to wear a condom, or too stupid to take the pill....

    No where did God ever condone killing a baby because the parents didn't want it.

    And a vote for Obama is a vote for Abortion...Gay rights, etc.
     
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    Good stuff Tim!:thumbs:
     
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    Afghanistan harbored al Qaeda, not Iraq, not Iran. In fact, Iran was quite willing to help us against al Qaeda(al Qaeda being Sunni, as was Saddam Hussein, and Iran being Shiite) but the Bush administration foolishly refused its help.
     
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    Let's get back on topic, please, or this thread will be closed. Thanks.
     
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    According to the 9/11 Commission report: In 1991 Iran agreed to give al Qaeda operatives explosives training within Iran, and that Iran assisted in the transit of jihadis to al-Qaeda training camps.

    The Telegraph has reported that Iran had “always maintained close relations with al-Qaeda”.

    Hamas, a Sunni terrorist organization, is supported by Iran,
    Sunni/Shite divide notwithstanding.
     
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    1. When we vote a pro abortion candidate, then we hold some responsibilty, we are giving our support for an abomidable act.
    2. No one controls who goes to heaven but God, but we can read His book where He tells us all about it. Murder is sin, and the bible is specific. Voting a pro abortion candidtate is supporting murder.
     
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    those who vote, work, fight or in any way are for and involved in promoting abortion bear responsibility.
     
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    1. Baloney.

    2. More baloney.

    Are you full yet???? :)
     
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    Then why did Iran offer to help the U.S. after the attacks by al Qaeda on 9/11/2001?

    The misinformation spread about Iran, even by those who claim to be experts, is ridiculous.
     
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    So if we don't hold any responsibility, why vote at all...

    Voting is showing our support to the candidate and what the candidate stands for...
     
  13. KenH

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    Thanks, dragonfly. Unfortunately, we can't expect reasoned thinking by the radical right-wing in this nation on this pet issue of theirs.
     
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    That's why I don't understand how Christians justify voting for an advocate for the warfare state such as Senator John Sidney McCain III.
     
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    So are you saying that it is not actually in the report or that the report is wrong.
     
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    I am saying that Iran offered to help us after the 9/11/2001 attacks just as Pakistan did. The Bush administration accepted Pakistan's help and gave it billions of U.S. taxpayer money and refused Iran's help. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why. The Bush administration wanted to be able to call Iran part of the "Axis of Evil" while it did not desire to do the same to Pakistan, even though Pakistan actually has deliverable nuclear weapons.
     
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    If a nation gives approval and support for murdering babies, then that nation, as a whole is responsible. We even see it (national responsibility) in scripture, in the o.t.
    People claiming only the woman and doctor are responsible are the ones who keep voting in support for murder by voting for pro murder candidates. They want to try and claim innocence, but theres no innocence for those who approve of what God says is sin, even scripture teaches us that.
     
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    The United States, as a nation, does not stand in relationship to God as ancient Israel did. Therefore, your Old Testament comparison is invalid.

    A large minority, if not the majority, of the people in the United States, such as me, have never been a party to an abortion and would never do so.

    If you want to feel personally guilty about abortions, then you are certainly free to do so.

    I also find it interesting, and quite telling, that there is so much talk about the abortion issue every four years on this board but not nearly as much during the other three years. In the world of politics this is called a wedge issue and is merely being used to gain votes for or against certain candidates. Four years from now we'll be having the same debate over abortion, and then four years after that, and then four years after that, etc., etc., etc.
     
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    So are you saying people do not really care about abortion. I see you have been handed yout media patters talking points.
     
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    So you agree that when we vote for a candidate, we are supporting the issues the candidate supports... good.

    So it comes down to this...

    A vote for Obama or Hillary is a vote for continued Governmental support of Abortion. (An act of killing innocent Americans)

    A vote for McCain is a vote for the continued Governmental support of the war on terrorism. (An act of defending innocent Americans)

    Explain to me again why the war on terrorism is as bad as abortion.
    Nah, you don't have to... just yankin you.


    (I know this is oversimplified, but for this thread, it will have to do)
     
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