First, this is not a thread designed to attack Calvinism, although it will. It is a serious discussion. This thread is in response to comments Iconoclast made about me in another thread. There have been persons who say that Calvinism leads to a certain type of mindset that led to atrocities in the world, such as the extermination of the American Indians, and the Jews in WWII. Erich Fromm, in his book Escape from Freedom wrote that Naziism could not have arisen without the influence of Lutheranism and Calvinism. Other writers have pointed out that the extermination of the American Indians was due primarily to the Puritan or Calvinist mindset of early Americans who considered themselves "The Elect", while the Indians were an inferior "heathen" race that God did not love and should be eradicated. That I am not making this accusation up out of thin air, here is some evidence that this idea has been around for a long time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL6qXAttD0o http://www.beingryanbyrd.com/2009/0...-calvin-tony-campolo-and-logical-conclusions/ http://the-porters-lodge.blogspot.com/2009/09/rhetoric-matters-justifiable-homicide.html Again, this is not an attack thread, but I do believe that Calvinism has led to a certain mindset that leads to racism. When you believe you are elect and loved by God and that others are not elect and hated by God, this can be acted out. This thread will probably be shut down real quick, but folks should think about this for a moment.