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Need a prescription for Cheerios?

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by tinytim, Jun 19, 2009.

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  1. windcatcher

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    Here's another antedotal regarding a vitamin vs a drug.

    Many people with cardiovascular disease with suspected problems in clots forming (which often includes those with bypasses, stents, angio plasty, heartvalve replacements) are placed on warfarin or coumadin (heparin). These drugs acts by inhibiting platelets from sticking together, thus many folks refer commonly to them as 'blood thinners'. In actuallity, they help to prevent or delay clot formation thus one may bleed prolongedly from a slight cut..... or hemorrhage, if a vessel breaks or a wound is serious. They may also lessen the chances of a clot forming and causing a heart attack or a stroke. Coumadin can be a life saver.... but requires frequent and careful monitoring.

    However, Coumadin (the drug) has a natural antagonist available in the diet called Vitamin K. The body naturally makes its Vitamin K in the gut when normal bacteria are present and the diet provides the proper foods for conversion. Vitamin K helps the blood to clot. It also helps to protect calcium storage, and in the blood, it helps PREVENT calcium from becoming part of the harden plaques which contribute to diseased arteries. Calcium plaques on the walls of blood vessels is implicated in hardening of the arteries, blood pressure and less elasticity of the vessel walls and a contributing factor in clot formation and emboli.... which is a traveling blood clot. Guess what.... while Vitamin K promotes normal blood clotting... it also has a counter action of helping to prevent calcium build up in the arteries and blood vessels. But Coumadin, which helps prevent blood clots, is not sparring of calcium and doesn't impede its loss from the bones nor its build up in the arteries.
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    Between the patient and his doctor.... is determining the health risk and health benefit of chemical therapy....... which is really what medication for chronic conditions is. The informed doctor knows both the nutrition and the medication and determines what is best for his patient taking into consideration all that he knows. But many specialist practice in group settings and part of belonging to a group of specialist includes conforming and agreeing to 'standards of practice' which are meant to offset the liability issues.... but may promote the accepted 'prescription' over any dietary consideration or ammendment. Part of this problem may also lie in the nutritional supplement industry as well, as it is not standardized beyond the most basic telling of the chemical presence and measure per dose: How much is 'bio available' and how much will be active in the body and how much is likely to be 'wasted' or of no value.... and even whether it is a synthetic copy or extracted from natures own provisions is seldom, if ever, reported..... so in the doctor's defense.... even if some wished to recommend any dietary supplements it is not possible to insure that a patient will get a reputable supplement from a provider.... or pick up some cheap product sold at a 'dollar store' reporting to be the same thing on its label.
     
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  2. gb93433

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    Any diabetic doctor will also tell you to reduce your intake of carbohydrates and when you do it also lowers your cholesterol and tryglicerides. Doctors will aslo tell us that kids who drink lots of sodas typically also have high cholesterol. If one also stops eating their cholesterol will also go down.

    When one eats corn flakes, etc. in Europe he quickly finds out that there is no sugar in them. Companies make a lot of things addicting to those who partake. Take away the sugar from breakfast cereals and see what happens. Kid's IQ often goes up about 25.
     
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    Now maybe we will need a prescription for orange juice and all it's Vitamin C-- it's a preventative drug against colds and flu [don't we know? :smilewinkgrin:] Then orange growers will be put out of business like poppy farmers, so we'll send another industry to Mexico and have all kinds of smuggling schemes to get them here. But already they have dogs that sniff fruits coming in, because that's where drugs are sometimes hidden; especially in large fruits like watermelons. One time the dog trainers found a pack of sad collies they decided to train for that operation, and they really came through. They're called melancholies.
     
  4. Marcia

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    I realize how we eat affects our health. That has nothing to do with allowing cereal boxes to make medical claims about their products. For one thing, they don't tell us anything negative that might be there. But they are simply not qualifed.
     
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