I trust this will stay in the politics area since it will probably degenerate into a political battle :smilewinkgrin: I'm working on I Peter 2.17 "Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king." Since this board has some real dislikers of a certain person whom shall remain unnamed due to his many misspellings :thumbs: I thought it might challenge us (I use us because I tend to agree with most of you about him.) to list just how we can "honor" the President when he is -- shall we say dishonorable? This is serious, I have been a bit convicted about my feelings toward him, not that my evaluation has changed, but how do we honor him? The honor all men is an aorist tense while the other three items are present tenses. Any thoughts. I am a great list maker when it comes to application of a passage, but I must admit this one stumps me, and even that does not honor the office :type: On another note, there are a couple commentaries that suggest when it says honor all men that it relates to honor them as honor is due, yet not one translation I checked give any hint of the added thought. Has anyone dealt with this, or have any thoughts.