Nein, Nein, Nein to 9-9-9!

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  1. righteousdude2

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    I think Cain is a well-rounded individual, with a wealth of experience, but, I just can't see electing him to the office as POTUS!

    We have to get someone into that position who not only has a ton of political experience, but someone who can begin repairing the last few years of the Bush administration's major fall from grace, as well as Obama's nasty mess.

    It will take more than tearing down the basketball court inside the WH, and reinstalling the bowling alley :smilewinkgrin: it will take someone who loves this country and is willing to turn it back towards the greatness it once stood for.

    Who will that person be???

    Well not Obama. Not Cain. Not Romney. Not Newt!

    As I said a while back, I'd be willing to vote Democrat if Hillary were running. And I'd vote Republican/Independent if someone who is not in the current mix steps up in the next six months.

    We will have had a total of at least seven years without a productive Executive in the WH, and it will take time, and patience by the American public, as long as we get the right person in office. That person must exude patriotism to its fullest, and that doesn't mean continuing wars abroad.

    It means getting people back to work, and uniting the great divide that has come about over the last ten to twelve years.

    Shalom,

    Pastor Paul :type:
     
  2. mandym

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    so how has all the "poltical experience" been working out? I will not vote for political experience. I want a no nonsense, non politician for President. I am tired of the career seekers in politics. Cain is the guy! :thumbsup:
     
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    And I would not vote Hillary for dog catcher.
     
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    Nein? Are you German?

    Here in Miane, people always claim to be French or italian, but upon questioning, they almost always turn out to be American.

    See? German, French and Italian are all nationalities, not races. A nationality means you were either born there or you gained citizenship by legal means. A person is not still German if the original German ancester was 5 generations back. You are American.

    If a person is born in the US and has never even been to Germany, then they can't be German. I am not saying that you have never visited Germany, but a visit doesn't make you German.

    As far as Herman Caine's 999? Yes it can be improved upon, but, it is a start towards a simpler and fairer tax code. Even though it has flaws, it is way better than the corrupted tax code we have now.

    AJ
     
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    Huh? Whether I agree or not I think the 'Nein, Nein, Nein to 9-9-9' was kind of witty.
     
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  7. matt wade

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    That statement right there is why everything else you say is discredited.

    Voted liberal line on partial birth & harm to fetus.
    Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP.
    Voted NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion.
    Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions.
    Voted NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime.
    Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life.
    Recommended by EMILY's List of pro-choice women.
    Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record.
    Rated 0% by the NRLC, indicating a pro-choice stance.

    So you, Dude, are willing to vote for someone with no morals simply because she, the witch, has political experience? What a foolish vote and statement.
     
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    On topic, I find Cain's plan short sighted and his defense extremely shallow.

    Off topic, I would never vote for someone who supports the murder of babies. Taxes or not, children are more important.
     
  9. seekingthetruth

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    Truth

    I was trying to be funny with my last post, but you have brought truth to the forefrunt, and it is not funny.

    Too many Christians are willing to sacrifice their morals and bible teachings in order to support a person/woman/witch that they believe will bring financial prosperity to themselves and their family.

    I would rather live in a mud hut with no modern technology than to support Hillary/Obama/Pelosi, and that idiot, Biden.

    Lord help us if Obama dies, Biden would finish destroying us even quicker than Obama is.

    We are quickly becoming the "moral minority", especially now that Christians are supporting platforms that include abortion, gay rights, and socialism.

    John
     
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    :thumbsup: what mandym said.
     
  11. righteousdude2

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    Let Me Make This Perfectly Clear!

    I would vote for Clinton over Obama, if in fact I didn't feel there was a good candidate on the other ticket.

    There have been runors that the DNC may drop Obama and put Clinton on their ticket. If all I had to choose from was Cain, Romney, Newt, or Paul, Perry, I'd seriously choose to vote DNC.

    I'm not pro-abortion, but, we all know that there is no one going into public office that won't compromise their values and views while in office.

    I am just saying, that at this time, there is no one who really has my attention .

    Maybe Condi Rice, or Colon Powell. They may be an interesting RNC ticket.

    Thanks for all your comments, but, please hold back on passing judgement. I was simply making a comment.

    As for the German thing, I am a second generation German, and used to speak fairly good German. However, my parents forbid me to speak anything but English. If they had only let me be bi-lingual, I would have had an easier time in German class.

    To be honest, Clinton wouldn't be a choice for me, unless someone with a better plan steps up on the other side.
     
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    What makes you believe Cain would compromise his values?
     
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    As a Christian, I did not nor would I likely ever vote for the
    gangster Clintons to be POTUS. I knew before the election they would be and my vote was defunct, that however did not change my vote.

    Personally, I have elsewhere stated that my choice is Governor Perry, Vietnam Era Veteran. That being said, I have favored the Flat Tax with all of me and I will not vote for the Criminal Attorney/Illegal Alien Islamic Obama. I will vote for Herman Cain for a number of reasons, none of them being race! I also find his plan short of what I expected for the Tax Reform since 1964 until today, however, he is the only viable candidate with a plan to attack the great disease that has brought this nation to it´s knees and you will have to admit, nobody can play the Race Card on Him and when he wins nobody can accuse the Blacks of putting him in office the way so many have done with Obama!

    The strangest thing about this people, Americans, is they continue to cry for the flat tax reform... until they are looking it in the eye and then they turn coward. (These words from your local Grumpy Old White Man!)

    (He takes off his Stingy Brim Fedora, wipes the sweat from his bald head and shakes it from side to side as his scooter fades from sight.)
     
  14. righteousdude2

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    Bush is What Makes Me Think Cain Would Compromise!

    If you all remember, Bush was a pro-life POTUS, and after eight years, taxpayers were still paying for abortions, and the partial-birth abortions, at taxpayer expense, grew in popularity.

    I have never believed that the person elected to POTUS could complete a term without compromising some of, if not most of, their views, visions, and values.

    Reagan, with all the good he did for America, was behind the initial amnesty for illegal aliens, opening the floodgates for future amnesty. Once people from other countries observed that the federal government was willing to compromise their set-in-cement laws, they (illegal aliens) came from all over the world, and illegally entered this nation, knowing that our bleeding-heart liberal ideals would eventually result in the circumvention of laws meant to protect this country from being over run by persons not wanting to gain legalization according to the process!

    Reagan was also a pro-life POTUS, and following his two terms. Roe-vs-Wade was still law, and again, taxes continued to fund the killing of babies.

    In fact Reagan ran on the promise of a Constitutional Ammendment to curb abortion (http://www.issues2000.org/celeb/Ronald_Reagan_Abortion.htm)

    Reagan's two terms were followed by Bush Sr., for a total of twelve years under the leadership of presidents who were going to change the abortion laws (sure thing?), and yet there was no change to the fact that taxpayer dollars went to fund abortion.

    One other fact about Reagan, while he was Californians Governor, he fully supported abortion, killing more than a million babies under his watch as Governor (see web site above).

    If the office of POTUS doesn't result in compromise, then I'd like to see an example of recent POTUSs who did not compromise their values once they took possession of the WH?

    The office changes the platforms on which presidents, and other high-ranking politicians run on, and that is a fact. :tear:

    And I had high hopes that the Obama administration would include the fetus of the soldier gunned down at Fort Hood by the terrorist Army psychiatrist. Still, they have not added the life of that child, being carried by that soldier, to the total number of lives killed that day!

    Of course, that is not Obama's fault because we all know he is not only pro abortion, but a proponent of partial-birth abortions. :tear:

    It's just that I had hoped that the righteous anger of Americans would have influenced the WH and got them to make the total number killed thirteen, not twelve!

    So, please don't question my stand on abortion. I'm simply being realistic when I say that it doesn't matter what the man, or woman, believes, once they are in the office, they do the DC Flipflop Shuffle!

    Obama has alienated himself from tons of supporters for joining in and doing the DC Shuffle! And for this, I'm a little relieved, because had he went through with his platform. We would be in more trouble than we are right now.
     
  15. seekingthetruth

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    Nice post

    this is how you justify voting for Hillary?

    John
     
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    I'll Say This ONe More Time For Those Who Can't Read!

    I said, if I had a choice between Obama or Clintion, I'd vote for her. I do not believe this scenario would ever come about, so please move on. :sleep: I am not justifying anything. Just pointing out a fact. Address the fact, if you want to address anything at all!

    If you want to be stuck in a rut, so be it! :BangHead:
     
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    Perry is the worse of the republican candidates.
     
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    Why are liberals the only two choices in your example here?

    If Hillary and Obama were the only two choices, I would not vote at all.

    "second generation German"? There is no such thing. Your parents were German, but you are American. Try going to Germany and proclaiming that you are German, they would laugh you out of the country.

    What is wrong with being an American? Why do you even want to be German?

    John
     
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    Are you a Democrat? If so,you would vote for Hillary instead of Obama in the Democratic Primary. But the Presidential election of November 4 is not a Primary. In the Presidential election a Democratic candidate will vie against a Republican and maybe a 3rd Party candidate as well.
     
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    Based upon your keen analytical skills? :)

    Do you base your view upon his performance in the so-called debates?
     

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