New 2004 Preamble to Constitution Party Platform

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    Preamble

    The Constitution Party, gratefully acknowledges the blessing of our
    Lord and Savior Jesus Christ as Creator, Preserver and Ruler of the
    Universe and of these United States. We hereby appeal to Him for
    mercy, aid, comfort, guidance and the protection of His Providence as
    we work to restore and preserve these United States.

    This great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians;
    not on religions but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason
    peoples of other faiths have been and are afforded asylum, prosperity,
    and freedom of worship here.

    The goal of the Constitution Party is to restore American jurisprudence
    to its Biblical foundations and to limit the federal government to its
    Constitutional boundaries.

    The Constitution of the United States provides that “no religious test
    shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust
    under the United States.” The Constitution Party supports the original
    intent of this language. Therefore, the Constitution Party calls on all
    those who love liberty and value their inherent rights to join with us
    in the pursuit of these goals and in the restoration of these founding
    principles.

    The U.S. Constitution established a Republic rooted in Biblical law,
    administered by representatives who are constitutionally elected by the
    citizens. In such a Republic all Life, Liberty and Property are
    protected because law rules.

    We affirm the principles of inherent individual rights upon which these
    United States of America were founded:

    • That each individual is endowed by his Creator with certain
    unalienable rights; that among these are the rights to life, liberty,
    property and the pursuit of happiness;

    • That the freedom to own, use, exchange, control, protect, and freely
    dispose of property is a natural, necessary and inseparable extension of
    the individual’s unalienable rights;

    • That the legitimate function of government is to secure these rights
    through the preservation of domestic tranquility, the maintenance of a
    strong national defense, and the promotion of equal justice for all;

    • That history makes clear that left unchecked, it is the nature of
    government to usurp the liberty of its citizens and eventually become a
    major violator of the people’s rights; and

    • That, therefore, it is essential to bind government with the chains of
    the Constitution and carefully divide and jealously limit government
    powers to those assigned by the consent of the governed.
     
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    Is this the real Preamble?

    It does not match the one on the Constitution Party website!
     
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    Why does the Constitution Party which prides itself on upholding the U.S. Constitution reject Article 5 of the U.S. Constitution when it lays out in easily understandable language the process for calling for a Constitutional Convention?

    It seems to me the Constitution Party speaks from both sides of its mouth! :eek:
     
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    This is the new one that was adopted at the national convention in June. The website has not been updated for the new platform yet. I received the new one on a Constitution Party email discussion group.
     
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    The platform plank on that subject explains why.
     
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    The platform plank on that subject explains why. </font>[/QUOTE]Yes but it does not explain why the Constitution Party picks and chooses what it will or won't support in the U.S. Constitution.

    Sounds like a hidden agenda to me!
     
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    My Response to the NEW PREAMBLE if indeed it is the NEW PREAMBLE.

    This New Preamble of the Constitution Party seems to be a flawed document. You cannot appeal to the "Christian" heritage of the USA and at the same time imply that a Muslim, a Jew, or an atheist would be an acceptable candidate for President of the U.S. and yet the Constitution Party Preamble apparently attempts to do this.

    "The Constitution of the United States provides that “no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust
    under the United States.” The Constitution Party supports the original intent of this language."

    My question to the Constitution Party members is what does original intent mean? Furthermore, why mention Christianity or any religion at all in the Party's Platform when it prides itself on being a strict U.S. Constitutional Party?

    Or in other words, if you do not want the government to go beyond the bounds of the Constitution why then is the CP so willing to go beyond the bounds of the Constitution even in its preamble?

    :eek:
     
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    How does opposing a constitutional convention that could put at risk the Bill of Rights cause you to think there is a hidden agenda? :confused:
     
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    While founded as a Christian nation, no religious test is to be required of a government official. Since our laws are based on a Biblical worldview, as long as anyone of a non-Christian religion is willing to uphold our laws he can be a government official.

    Anyway, since you don't think the Constitution Party will ever amount to anything, why are you concerned about what the CP platform preamble says?

    By the way, in your opening sentence are implying I might be lying that this is the new preamble?
     
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    While founded as a Christian nation, no religious test is to be required of a government official. Since our laws are based on a Biblical worldview, as long as anyone of a non-Christian religion is willing to uphold our laws he can be a government official.

    Anyway, since you don't think the Constitution Party will ever amount to anything, why are you concerned about what the CP platform preamble says?

    By the way, in your opening sentence are implying I might be lying that this is the new preamble?
    </font>[/QUOTE]I'm just trying to understand the mindset of good people who are willing to overlook the obvious contradictions put forth by the CP and yet not give any slack to the Bush Administration.

    I would never imply that you are lying Ken.

    I just wonder why it hasn't been changed on the web site to reflect the new and more religiously oriented language? Could this be because of a reluctance among the staff to publish this much more religiously explicit language?
     
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    How does opposing a constitutional convention that could put at risk the Bill of Rights cause you to think there is a hidden agenda? :confused: </font>[/QUOTE]It seems to me if the CP wants to run the Government solely based on the U.S. Constitution that they would agree with all of it in its entirety. If not then they should call themselves the 9/10th Constitutional Party or the 7/8ths CP or whatever the percentage turns out to be.

    Furthermore it seems as though the influence of Chuck Baldwin is coming through loud and clear in the rewording of the preamble. This marriage of Christianity and the Constitution is really going to repel a lot of potential voters who were attracted by a purely Constitutional Party.
     
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    No. Perhaps, a lack of manpower. Maybe people went on vacation after all of the work to put on the convention and the holiday weekend coming up.
     
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    Sorry that your expectations aren't met.
     
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    Sorry that your expectations aren't met. </font>[/QUOTE]Not a matter of my expectations. It's a matter of integrity and purpose.
     
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    The truth is you don't know why the preamble was changed or why it hasn't been updated on the web site - You like me are speculating at best.
     
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    Well, there are no perfect people and no perfect political parties.

    We can argue about this from now until Doomsday and I still won't vote for President Bush on November 2 and you still won't vote for Mr. Peroutka on November 2.
     
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    As far as why am I interested? I'm always interested in learning from the opposition. ;)
     
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    You're right about there being no perfect political parties but this one the CP is being hijacked by the extreme religious right which will be its downfall. I think that's a tragedy.
     
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    Actually, there has been a great deal of discussion about changing the preamble on the Constitution Party email discussion list I mentioned earlier. I didn't pay that much attention to it since I wasn't going to be there to vote on the matter so I can't regurgitate what the discussion centered on.

    If you seriously want to know about the preamble issue, I suggest you contact Angela Wittman at [email protected] . She is a major player on the CP discussion list.
     
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    The CP was not hijacked. It has always been on the "extreme religious right" from its inception in 1992.
     

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