New book on Baptism - Evangelical Sacrament?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by The Biblicist, Aug 9, 2013.

  1. The Biblicist

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    "News has come through of the imminent publication of a new book on baptism by Anthony Cross. The subject of baptism continues to be of considerable interest—though it frequently appears within broader studies of sacraments, liturgy, worship, and ecumenical studies, and within confessional bounds: credobaptist or paedobaptist—yet it is rarely discussed by Evangelicals. This book, however, is neither an apologetic for credobaptism nor paedobaptism; rather Cross believes that, as practised today, both forms are a departure from New Testament baptism, which, he maintains, was an integral part of becoming a Christian and part of the proclaimed gospel. He argues that the “one baptism” of Ephesians 4:5 is conversion-baptism and that the baptism referred to in the various New Testament strata refers to this “one baptism” (of Spirit and water). The study sets out the case for this interpretation and contends that in key passages “baptism” is an example of synecdoche. The case is then made for a sacramental interpretation of baptism from a thoroughgoing Evangelical perspective. Cross concludes with reflections on the necessity of baptismal reform and the relevance of a return to conversion-baptism for the contemporary church in a post-Christian, post-Christendom, mission setting.‘The challenge of this thesis … is essentially simple: we are called and challenged simply to accord the significance to baptism that it is accorded within the New Testament."

    ’John E. Cowell, Minister, Budleigh Salterton Baptist Church, UK, and Senior Research Fellow, Spurgeon’s College, London - See more at:

    http://seanthebaptist.typepad.com/s...angelical-sacrament.html#sthash.6Iu7YqXU.dpuf
     
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    NOT a sacrament, as there is no grace conferred by God towards the one receiving that water baptism!
     
  3. Tom Butler

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    To advance the discussion, we should agree on the definition of sacrament.

    My own understanding is that a sacrament carries with it some salvific power.

    That would translate to baptismal regeneration, in my opinion.

    Therefore, with yeshua, no.
     
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    if there was such a thing as an Evangelical sacrament God gave to thechurch, what didn't paul explain that to us in either Romans or Galatians?
     
  5. Tom Butler

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    Historically, baptism and the LS have been called "ordinances." Partly because we follow Paul's lead in I Cor 11:2, where he instructs the local church at Corinth to "guard the ordinances." I haven't been able to find the word "sacrament" anywhere in the Bible in connection with baptism and/or the Lord's Supper.
     
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    NO mention in entire bible that any rite can confer Grace towards us, as its always the Cross of jesus, that is all and sufficient provider of grace!
     

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