New study finds marijuana triples risk of stillbirth

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  1. thisnumbersdisconnected

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    Although the study considers the results to be limited in scope due to the relatively small number of stillbirths studied in comparison to live births -- 663 stillbirths, about 1,900 live births -- the results raise significant issues, as Dr. Varner said in the interview, regarding the increased availability of marijuana through legalization efforts. This is in addition to the information that has been known for several years as a result of the Washington State University ADCAPS study of marijuana use.

    These clowns calling marijuana "safe" and "useful" either have no clue, or are as deliberately disingenuous as our Great Pretender "president."
     
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    How was the marijuana administered? (I'm on my phone and couldn't read the article) I don't think anyone would argue that smoking it has health risks. But there are several methods of administration. That would make a difference in the findings.
     
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    I'm sure it was smoke, but if you're thinking Marinol, don't. That isn't marijuana.
     
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    No, I'm thinking of baking it into desserts, turning it into candy, and making the extract a pill. I'm not sold on MJ being good, but I'm far from being sold on it being bad for you. Especially if compared to cigarettes and alcohol.
     
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    Making a tea from the leaves of the plant is going to deliver a safe level of thc.
     
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    Better check out that WSU link in the OP, Woody.
    There is no such thing as a "safe level" of THC when it is self-administered.
     
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    You would rather take a drug, altered from its natural state, and prescribed by some Christ-hating self appointed-god in the AMA?

    Give me the herbs of my ancestors, and keep your "Doctors".
     
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    Absolutely! I know where the meds have been. Who knows where the pot has been -- or what's mixed in with it?

    I'm an addictions counselor. I hear this all the time from people who want to justify their continuing use.
     
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    Lol @ "what's mixed in with it".
     
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    I guess you're going to try to tell me you don't know dealers "cut" marijuana with other drugs? Or why they do that?

    "LOL" right back atcha.
     
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    You realize that declaring an absolute, when there isn't 1, and pretending that you work at a drug factory, and "know where they have been", is called: LYING.

    You dont even know what the ingredients are in prescription meds.

    Why dont you trust the Creator, to make plants that we can use as medicine?
     
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    If you are going to a "dealer" to get m.j., you have worse problems than buying a product cut with Orégano, Parsley, or some other harmless herb, (when used as a tea).

    I am not advocating a 13 year-old scoring some bud laced with embalming fluid, so he can humo out of a 6 story window.
    I'm talking about using a plant, that the Creator put here, for the purpose He put it here for.
    I have tested the m.j. leaf tea, as a mild pain reliever, and there is pain relief with out a "hi".
    Also, the stems can be woven into rope.
     
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    " ... pretending that work at a drug factory"? What the Sam Hill are you talking about?? I'm a drug/alcohol/disordered gambling counselor. Where did I say anything about a "drug factory"? Prescription drugs are subject to the most stringent manufacturing, handling and sales requirements of any product in the world. Yeah, I "know where they've been" because it's required in their labeling. And what assurance do you have that your dealer hasn't "stepped on" the pot with some other drug he/she sells? You have none. And you have no assurance there was any sanitary concern in its packaging -- and you and I both know that wasn't a "concern" of anyone who handled the stuff.

    Really? For six bucks, you can buy a copy of the PDA Drug Guide, Lippencott's Nursing Drug Guide or a couple other good publications of the same type and know everything you ever wanted to know about the medications you're taking. Your statement = epic fail.

    Oh, brother! A true twist of logic and Scripture that I wouldn't expect of someone on this board. Takes all kinds, I guess.

    I love it when some marijuana campaigner points to Gen. 1:11 ("Let the earth sprout vegetation" -- tell me, why is marijuana the only plant you associate with that verse, since "vegetation" also encompasses stink weed and poison ivy?) and other verses (Gen. 1:29; 3:18) to justify the smoking of what they refer to as "grass." You want to claim that, since God created the plant and declared it "good", it should therefore be enjoyed. Well, go ahead and enjoy it. It's made from hemp, which makes a great rope -- probably enough you could hang yourself, as this argument will do.

    God also created sand (which, by nature of the fact that God made it, is "good"), and if someone wants to eat sand by the spoonful, they may do so. However, they shouldn’t complain if they get a stomach ache. While God had a practical use for marijuana, man decided for some reason to burn it and kill his brain cells by inhaling its harmful fumes. Likewise, man decided to use the beautiful poppy to destroy his life with incredibly addictive heroin. Breathing in the burning fumes of anything is extremely unhealthy, and those who do so aren’t thinking very deeply. This is one reason why marijuana is called “dope.” Those who smoke “grass” will waste their days, wither their brain, and forget what they are doing. Feel free, if you must. Sane people will think twice, however.
     
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    Glad you like listening to yourself..., Now do you mind telling me where i said anything in favor of smoking pot? Or getting high at all?
    Or, for that matter, using the part of the plant where the THC is concentrated, the bud?
    Or buying anything from a dealer?

    Try this new hobby...dialogue.
     
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    Right here.
    So just smoke the leaf?
    "Your" being a generic usage, not "you" specifically.
    I will when you will. No discussion of my OP, just a diatribe about pot being "God's gift."
     
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    Bumped ... So TNID can see what he answered without reading...
    Notice the Word "tea"....
    Try it, D-I-A-L-O-G-U-E.
    It means you read my post, and answer. And I do the same.
     
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    All plants are God's gift, using them correctly is up to us.

    BTW, if a plant has an active ingredient, that actually affects you in some way, it is both potentially medicinal, and dangerous...at the same time.

    Poppies are used for both heroin, and opiate based pain killers.

    And MJ has a med. use, as well.
    Just because you havent studied plants, and their uses, doesnt mean others havent.

    I chew on willow bark, rather than take an aspirin...did my "dealer" put a "cut" on that, too?
    Your tiny little world isnt the only thing going in God's garden.
     
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    How very anti-synthetic of you. You can't just go traipsing about forests. Leave that to the drug companies. They're more trust worthy, because they have offices and use corporate fonts like Vialog(TM) in their writings. Only serious businesses you can trust use that stuff. Mmmm....

    Just an FYI, don't use willow bark if you're female and might be pregnant. Or OTC aspirin...
     
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    I love "traipsing about forests", and foraging for edible and medicinal wild plants.

    Good thing all those trustworthy drug companies are so reliable. They might get sued if they weren't.

    I get offput by any side effects danger list that exceeds the combined expected benefits and ingredients lists.
     
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    Marijuana is a miracle drug for people suffering the effects of radiation & chemical oncologies. And it has to inhaled. Smoking just a tiny bit of marijuana cures nausea, and stimulates the appetite. And there is little else that works, and certainly nothing in a comparable price range.

    Go ahead and toss the names at me, and work hard to convince yourself my motives must be pure evil, or address the facts.
     
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