New World Order: Still A Conspiracy Theory?

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  1. poncho

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    Despite the fact that the term “new world order” was mentioned in connection with the G20 this week hundreds of times by both global leaders and in news reports, it is still regarded as a “conspiracy theory” by that bastion of truthiness, Wikipedia.​

    British Prime Minister Gordon Brown himself yesterday announced that the G20 heralded the creation of a “new world order” which would involve increased global regulation of economic markets.​

    A Google News search provides well over a thousand results of reports including the term “new world order” over the past couple of weeks.​

    Despite the fact that world leaders have been talking about a “new world order” for decades, in the context of the political agenda to diminish the power of sovereign states in favor of a move towards global governance, it was still regarded as a delusion of paranoid conspiracy theorists by the establishment media until relatively recently.​

    Now even Fox News and Sean Hannity are throwing their arms in the air and admitting that the “conspiracy theorists were right” as the agenda for global government is openly announced.​


    So, is it still a conspiracy theory? ​
     
  2. LeBuick

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    Define you view of new world order?
     
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    Better yet LeBuick, define the world leaders view of new world order.
     
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    Perhaps just the fulfillment of the slogan of the US Seal...Novus Ordo Seclorum...the New Order of the Ages.
     
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    Rule by big business is the new world order. It is a done deal. There are worse systems. Anyone with normal smarts should be able to live with it and do OK.
     
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    A new world order isn't necessarily The "New World Order." When the Roman Empire fell there was a new world order. When England was defeated by the upstart American colonies there was a new world order. When the Spanish Armada was defeated there was a new world order.
     
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    when has the world in the past seen global and economic (one world currency) before?
     
  8. LeBuick

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    We don't have that now, all we have is the fear mongering right trying to scare everyone into believing this.
     
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    NWO and American Dollars

    Matthew 24:3 (The Latin Vulgate)
    sedente autem eo super montem Oliveti accesserunt ad eum discipuli
    secreto dicentes dic nobis quando haec erunt et quod signum adventus
    tui et consummationis saeculi

    Matthew 24:3 (HCSB= Holman Christian Standard Bible)

    While He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached
    Him privately and said, "Tell us, when will these things happen?
    And what is the sign of Your coming
    and of the end of the age?

    Mat 24:3 (LKV1611 Edition):
    And as he sate vpon the mount of Oliues, the Disciples came vnto
    him priuately, saying, Tell vs, when shall these things be?
    And what shall be the signe of thy coming,
    and of the end of the world?

    Back of the $1 bill NOVUS ORDO SECLORIUM

    Consider the slogan: NOVUS ORDO SECLORIUM: usually translated 'new order for the ages"

    NOVUS - Latin word from which we get 'new'

    ORDO - Latin word from which we get 'order'

    SECLORIUM - latin word from which we get 'secular' (not religions, but
    of the world) also means "age".

    So Novus Ordo Seclorium can indeed mean 'new order for the ages"

    But Novus Ordo Seclorium can also mean:
    'new order for the world' or 'new world order'.
     
  10. poncho

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    What are Christains to do about the NWO and the subversion of our civil constitition? Do we sit here on our computer chairs and say oh well God said this day would come...so what? What about those of us who swore to defend the constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic? Are we to just surrender the USA to transnational bankers?

    Do we still sit here on our computer chairs and wait for Jesus to return...doing nothing? I always thought the USA was our country and it is our responsibility to defend it from those who would make war on us either by force or by stealth.

    Maybe I was mistaken? Maybe the USA isn't worth defending? Maybe the evidence you seek to "prove" there are people in high places ruining our country by design will be a noose around your neck or chains on your children?
     
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    I have to agree with you. I don't believe in sitting around & doing nothing. If its supposed to happen, it will happen, but why should I let it happen without a fight? Who says that it has to happen in my lifetime? My question is what should a person do to combat this?
     
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    You could be a prophet my friend :thumbs: Yes, it will come to what you say, so says the scripture.

    Rom 9:22[What] if God, willing to shew [his] wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:


    I for one will pray and warn fellow Christians that it is God, not governmet, who saves and protects the soul.

    One World Order is approaching fast! Praise God, Jesus is coming soon!

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    To combat this is to kick against the pricks. God is taking this world in His dirrection. Pay attention to the signs and praise God. Look up, for your redemption draws nigh!

    :jesus:
     
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    EVERYBODY WANTS TO GO TO HEAVEN BUT NOBODY WANTS TO DIE!

    Aren't we Christians living here in cozy America a bunch of sad individuals? We want to live a cushy 100 years, longer if we could make it possible somehow, and then die peacefully in our sleep.

    We don't care about those Christians in third world countries who are praying and begging for Jesus to return because they are getting up each morning not knowing if some goone is going to drag them out of their hut and chop off an arm or head.

    No, no. We SAY we want Jesus to come back and end the suffering but WE don't want the world to go the way Jesus said it MUST go before He returns.

    This Political board needs to take some time to read what Jesus said MUST HAPPEN! ANd stop belly aching about it. We are to admonish and exhort each other AS WE SEE THE DAY APPROACHING. Why are so many Christians ignorant of the scripture on this issue? You can't stop it, why do you think you must? Why do you want to delay it even? Because your life is to wonderful here? Let's think about those who do suffer a bit for being a Christian. Hey, I stumped my big toe the other day, woe is me! Maybe I'll get a crown for it in heaven.

    We are sad and selfish. Come Lord Jesus come!

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    If God meant for me to sit on my computer chair and do nothing to resist the NWO...then why did he choose to place me in the U.S.A? This country was founded on the idea of resistance to the very same type of tyranny (unchecked consolidation of power into the hands of a few) we face today.

    I believe God wants us to be good citizens of the country He put us in and I also believe being a good citizen includes defending your country against the wiles of what Sam Adams called "deceitful and designing men".

    And I also believe that in order to defeat the NWO we must admit it's real and then educate every citizen about the history of how the elite have always consolidated power unto themselves and ultimately used it to destroy and enslave every society it ever came in contact with.

    An educated citizen is the best defense against tyranny. Always has been always will be.

    Jesus said to carry on until He returns Steaver. Not lay around and wish He'd come back sooner so you and others can take a break from not carrying on. Note: carrying on means doing your duty to God, your country and your fellow man whether he be a Christian or non Christian. (imho)

    Selfisness BTW Steaver, is born from laziness and laziness is the urge to quit early and let the other fella do the work (carry on) while we sit idly by anticipating the harvest and enjoying the fruits of his labor. What ever happened to all that "sweat of the brow" stuff anyway? Are we all to good to carry out the sentence God handed down to us like men now?

    The NWO is the unchecked consolidation of power into the hands of a few.
     
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    You'll have to give the scripture reference. I don't think Jesus was speaking that we should fight against the one world government that He said was coming. I believe He was speaking of bearing fruit and watching after your fellow man.

    What are you talking about? I know some very selfish people who work very hard to earn and keep that which is their own. Lazy they are not.

    Read the Book brother! Jesus already declared that the NWO will come and ONLY Jesus will defeat it after it happens. So if you want Jesus to come back, then you should praise God that the One World Government is fast approaching. Why wouldn't you? Is it because you don't want the persecution? The disciples considered it an honor to be persecuted for Christ sake and when the One World Government begins persecuting us Christians we should praise God and look up for our redemption draws nigh!

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    So what are you doing to resist it? Besides sitting on your computer chair and complaining about it? Should we form a malitia and storm the White House?

    I'll tell you what I am doing about it. I am preaching to my fellow brothers and sisters to STOP worrying about that which MUST come and get busy serving God by serving others. The end is nearer now than when we first believed! Praise Jesus!

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  18. billwald

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    NOT a conspiracy

    from dictionary.com

    con⋅spir⋅a⋅cy

       /kənˈspɪr[​IMG]ə[​IMG]si/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kuh[​IMG]n-spir-uh-see] Show IPA –noun, plural -cies. 1. the act of conspiring. 2. an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot. 3. a combination of persons for a secret, unlawful, or evil purpose: He joined the conspiracy to overthrow the government. 4. Law. an agreement by two or more persons to commit a crime, fraud, or other wrongful act. 5. any concurrence in action; combination in bringing about a given result.


    Can't be very secret because I have been reading about it since 1962. There is no conspiracy. It is what people do by nature. Rich people do what rich people do and serfs do what serfs do. The government can't conspire against the government. They govern. Rich people don't meet and discuss how to screw over the working people. They discuss how they can improve the lot of the serfs who are to stupid to help themselves.

    Note the third definition. It is some of the people in this list who want to overthrow the government. Our elected officials don't want to overthrow our elected officials.

    Note the fourth: the government is prosecuting the pyramid schemers and those who falsified stuff in writing. (One should never lie in writing or under oath)

    The actions of the government have been acting legally whenever the Supreme Court finds for them. How can it be otherwise? That is how we have been operating since Lincoln's War. Maybe since the ratification of the Constitution. The Constitution requires rule by the Supremes. That is who it was written.
     
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    Typical liberal condescension. The common man is too stupid to understand what is good for them, so let's use the government to force it on them.:rolleyes:

    peace to you:praying:
     
  20. RalphIII

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    Brother. Please tell me you are not suggesting America is an Imperialistic Nation looking to conquer the World or has such goals, are you?

    Your definition or interpretation of "Novus Ordo Seclorum" is incorrect also. It is nor has it ever been a reference to any New World Order or World Era but strictly an American Era!

    Novus Ordo Seclorum on the American Seal stands for "the beginning of the new American Æra," This is how Charles Thomson the Founding Father who created the Seal and slogan stated it was to be interpreted.

    Charles Thomson was charged by the Continental Congress in creating the American Seal and this as he stated its symbolism was to be. It was not a reference to any World Order and anyone who says otherwise is intellectually dishonest. It was not to be interpreted strictly in Latin as some are doing today. It was in regards to our new founding of America.

    They did believe it was the great experiment and such that may serve as example to other nations because of its Democratic principals and freedoms. "The cause of America is in a great measure the cause of all mankind..." Thomas Paine This would be the only worldly connotation.

    http://www.greatseal.com/mottoes/seclorum.html



    I know you are most likely not going to want to admit this either but the seeing "Eye" on the seal was representative of God in overlooking and interceding on our behalf. It was an acknowledgment of the many favors of "Providence" in the creation of America and founding. The designers of the Seal never refereed to it as the "all seeing eye". They referred to it as the "Eye of Providence". http://www.greatseal.com/symbols/eye.html

    Providence was one fashion in which people would often refer to God, as found in Bible. I state this to avoid anyone wanting to imply their faith was impersonal which would be a complete lie. They also referred to the Lord in personal terms but showed more reverence for God than we often do today. http://www.greatseal.com/mottoes/providence.html

    BTW. America was founded with the Declaration of Independence! I know you don't like to admit this because you don't like to admit the traditional Christian influence of America but it is true. Just ask the Government or read anything by the Founders or better yet read the Constitution which you singularly like to reference. It dates our founding, as did the Articles of Confederation, from the Declaration.



    Many atheists and even some Christians argue conspiracies that the great Seal had Masonic implications or the "eye" was a reference to a great being but not implicitly God. This however is another lie and they do so simply because of an agenda. http://www.greatseal.com/mottoes/coeptis.html


    Not only was it not Masonic the Masons did not even adopt the "Eye of Providence" of the Seal until well after the Seal was created.
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    You may well be correct in America joining in a new World Order with the path Obama is taking us on though! He spends more time ridiculing America and apologizing to other nations for us? Wow!

    He seems to forget we helped save many of those nations and indeed the World with American money and more importantly American blood. He seems to forget slavery was not invented in America and in fact was carried out and still is in Africa. :BangHead:

    Hey, didn't you vote for Obama?


    P.S. I know I spoke a little off subject with the Constitution and all but it seems important at this moment in history given our Leader. Just getting the truth out and maybe venting a little.

    Take care.
     
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