News: Partially Hydrogenated Oils

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  1. Acts 1:8

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    I thought this was interesting so I'm sharing it. For those of you who watch your health, this is one more reason to eliminate processed synthetic foods from your diet. This site talks about the serious health risks posed by partially hydrogenated oils.

    http://bantransfats.com/

    [ May 25, 2003, 10:50 PM: Message edited by: Squire Robertsson ]
     
  2. Johnv

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    I'm not sure I understand. Who among us does not know the ill effects of transfatty acids when consumed inhigh amounts? So the answer is, don't eat transfatty acids in high amounts. Everyone knows this.

    BTW - This site is hardly objective. The site is the brainchild of an attorney who has filed a lawsuit against the makers of Oreo cookies to force them to remove transfats from them. In other words, he's a lawyer out to make a quick buck and a name for himself.
     
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    Being Baptists, this has tremendous potential to affect the health and welfare of our pot-luck dinners! [​IMG]
     
  4. Haruo

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    Maybe at your church. Here we hardly ever have Oreos.

    Haruo
     
  5. Acts 1:8

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    JohnV,

    Sadly, there are some of us out there who do not know everything about everything. I for one wasn't aware of what partially hydrogenated soybean oil really was untill today, so for the sake of others I posted this. Its good to remind people of important things, because behaviors are learned by repetition. I hope this lawyer is succesful in his lawsuit against Kraft. If so he'll probably eliminate enough PHOs from the American diet to fill several football stadiums.

    Regarding potluck dinners, I'm reminded of something a preacher once said when speaking about some of the stupid things we pray for at times. Who in there right mind would sit down in front a greasy pizza loaded in cholesterol and then ask God to "strengthen and nourish our bodies with this food"?
     
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    Ugh. Count me out on that one. What we do not need is more micromanagement by our government! They already dip their hands in enough places they dont belong, infringing on our individual liberty every chance they get. No more.

    Born of God, I, like John, thought it was common knowledge that transfats were bad for you. I've been avoiding partially hydrogenated oils for more than 5 years, and I don't live in a particularly health conscious area. I'm not knocking you, but this information has not been a secret, and has been pretty well disseminated over the past few years.
     
  7. dianetavegia

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    4 oreo's a year won't kill anybody. Moderation is the key! Pass the milk!

    Diane
     
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    Sure many people know that transfatty acids are bad for them. My point is that myself and probably some others didn't readily associate "partially hydrogenated soybean oil" with the likes of saturated fat and other transfatty acids. At first glance the average person might even think it was something harmless or even healthy because its got soybeans in it.

    Kelly,
    You may call it micromanagment by the US government, but I call it common sence! It's no different than banning lead from paint. There's nothing wrong creating a healthier environment that benefits society and eliminates a serious health risk.
     
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    Factor in the PHOs from all the other food you eat as well and it's no wonder why people have heart problems. It's not just about Oreos.
     
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    Oh, my. And there's only a few of those mint Oreos left! :eek: [​IMG]

    Down with trial lawyers out to make a fast buck! Let Freedom Ring! [​IMG]

    Munch...crunch...crunch...!! [​IMG]
     
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    And if the government made it mandatory for people to eat Oreos or similar foods, I'd be in favor of overturning such a law. You don't have to eat Oreos. If a room is paited with lead based paint, first of all, the average person may not know it's been painted with lead based paint (and most people don't keep around the can), thus they're not able to make an informed choice. You can choose to eat an Oreo, and you have the information on the package for you to read. Second, more people than the person who painted the room can be directly affected. Others may be indirectly affected by my eating 100 Oreos a day, but the only person directly affectde is me. Personal liberty at work.

    I agree that there are some things - such as lead based paint - that it makes sense to eliminate, largely because they affect more than the original user. But anything that only directly affects the original user is fair game, and the government should leave it alone. Such as Oreo cookies.
     
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    Not I! Born of God! Not I! I eat fresh vegetables from a local produce market that has a truck pick up Florida fruits and veggies almost every day of the week. I do NOT fry food! I steam or sautee veggies and make my own broths. I have a defatting cup and am very careful about what my family eats.

    I'm 52 and 116 lbs on my heavy days. My blood pressure runs about 130/60. I don't eat Oreo's but maybe once a year.... and cannot tolerate chips. I DO NOT eat McDonald's or other fast foods. My food vice is Pepsi. :eek:


    Okay... No more McDonald's; Ice cream; coffee; sugar; soda; milk; chips; fries; flouride; cleaning supplies; fingernail polish (fumes); gasoline (fumes); boxed foods; ketchup; mayonnaise; ..... etc.

    Moderation is the key.... No one forces you to eat what you eat.

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    Kelly,

    If you ate 100 Oreos a day, I think I'd be forced to sue you.

    Down with OREOS and thier poisonous oily white filling!!! yech, yech, yech!!
     
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    It's NOT the 'poisionous oily white filling'! The Trans fat makes the cookie crisp, according to the article.

    Diane
     
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    Diane,

    That came out wrong, I wasn't implying just you, but everyone in general. Sounds like you're a model eater for the Baptist Board. [​IMG]

    I think I'm gonna go out and buy a juicer tonight.
     
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    Here's a great site for checking how much fat and calories are in foods.

    Mike's Calorie And Fat Gram Chart For 1000 Foods

    SORTED BY FOOD NAME
    http://www.ntwrks.com/~mikev/chart1a.htm

    At the bottom of his page you can chose to see foods sorted by fat, calories, etc. It's 27 pages if you attempt to print it out. :D
     
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    [​IMG] No worries - I probably don't even eat ten Oreos a year! They sure are good, though!


    People choose to eat poorly or healthfully. We have enough warning labels and ways to get information now that there's no excuse for "blaming the manufacturer" because we got unhealthy from eating their admittedly unhealthy product! Oreos have always been considered junk food, have they not? Yes. Cookies, in general, have never been touted as healthful, have they? No. Personally, when this guy says that he didn't know Oreos were bad for him until two years ago, I think he's either lying or just incredibly stupid. He says "it's been so well hidden," ( MSN article)but it hasn't.

    Does this remind anyone of the guy who sued several fast food places because their food made him fat? :rolleyes: His case was thrown out, as I remember, for good reason, and I believe this one will be, too.
     
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    I LOVE OREOS!
    Never really thought about what was in them. Don't know much about trans blah blah blah. Do know people should eat in moderation, just don't do it!
    So yeah, there's some of us who just don't really know much about this stuff and some who probably should especially if they love DOUBLE STUFF! [​IMG]
    Gina
     
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    Sure many people know that transfatty acids are bad for them. My point is that myself and probably some others didn't readily associate "partially hydrogenated soybean oil" with the likes of saturated fat and other transfatty acids. At first glance the average person might even think it was something harmless or even healthy because its got soybeans in it.

    Kelly,
    You may call it micromanagment by the US government, but I call it common sence! It's no different than banning lead from paint. There's nothing wrong creating a healthier environment that benefits society and eliminates a serious health risk.
    </font>[/QUOTE]So the burger plaxces sell us the fatty meat and fries that make popel fat, and clog the arteries, so lets sue them too. Why not let the goverment make a mandated list of items we can and can ot eat, make it illegal to buy those fatty burgers, and greasy fried, all fast food place a thing os the fat past, no more heart attacks becasue of the nasty old food we eat. Let see, pork and beef, too much fat, supose to be limited in a diet to be heart healthy, so it looks like people just aren't doing it, goverment can make it illegal to eat it, or make it manditory to limit the quanities we eat, or off to jail you go.
    Nope, don't believe in the goveremtn telling people what thbey can eat. Don't want to eat fat, then do't do it, but let each free person in this free country make their own choices.
     
  20. FearNot

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    I have high cholesterol, and was watching my saturated intake. Unfortunately, none of my doctors told me about trans fats, I had to tell my current doctor about them. I told the doctor after I found out that is. Most foods I found them in claim to be low fat foods, very deceptive since trans fat is not written on most labels. You can only find trans fat by looking for hydrogented oils and partially hydrogenated oils in the ingredients.

    I went through my shelves and found transfats in all of the following...
    crackers (almost all crackers in the stores have them)
    cake mixes (only the organic ones don't have them)
    cookies
    stuffing mixes
    hot cocoa
    cereals
    breads
    brownies
    muffins
    doughnuts
    pies
    biscuits
    pita bread
    tortillas
    chips
    cheese curls
    popcorn
    etc etc etc

    trans fat is not natural, that is one good thing about the organic foods.
     

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