News: real or phoney?

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Ps104_33, Feb 15, 2003.

  1. Ps104_33

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    Give me a break. I am no supporter of GW, but I really don't think he's a Shintoist.

    Let's move on to important questions, such as why he insists on going to war against the opinion of the entire world.
     
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    I do not believe this has anything to do with his politcal views, but his profession to be a christian. No doubt,a professing baptist how pathetic. God said "Thou shalt have no other gods before me". This is what the thread is about.
     
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    rsr, if you listen to the media you'll indeed believe that nobody supports this war.
    Go with the facts instead, which appear to say that this war has more support than any other in history.
    Gina
     
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    Don't know anything about Faith Defenders or Bob Morey. How credible is that site? As for the Japan Times, it doesn't appear they recognized Bush as worshipping, but rather bowing in respect. When I studied martial arts as a younger man (albeit Korean, not Japanese), we bowed when entering the building. It was a sign of respect, not worship (although it could have had some past connotation of worship, I don't know about that).

    Gina, I think that's a good point - about 20 or so nations are ready to side with the United States in the event of a war. BTW, that brings to mind a joke someone sent via e-mail - "Going to war without France would be like playing football without an accordion!" [​IMG] Not that I'm wishing us to be in a war - I hope we don't. But I'm just not all that worried about what France or even the U.N. thinks.
     
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    When one's goal is a New World Order, one does whatever one can to achieve that goal, right or wrong. Including pretense.

    As a born-again Christian, I've felt deceived ever since a documented Radical Muslim "prayed" at our National Cathedral service after 09/11. And that was only the first thing some people have noticed.

    Born Again Christians need to "listen" to the witness of the Holy Spirit in their hearts about these matters. And their gut feelings. Instead of believing lip service, because talk is cheap. One should look at behavior.

    When you add it all up, there's quite a long list of things. :(
     
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    I do not know George Bush's heart. But, his presidential actions are not those I would expect of a Christian.

    On a side note that has come up...most people who I talk to, both conservative and liberal, are against war with Iraq.

    And, many of the countries who "support" the war are paid with our tax money to say so.
     
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    In the words of Monty Python, "This is entirely too silly".

    So far we know that he bowed, as is the costom in that part of the world and we know, from the picture on this goofy website, that he signed a register.

    Exactly when did he "worship" anyone?
     
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    rsr, GW isn't deciding to go to war or not, we are already in war. The terrorist and their supporters started the war already, he is just defending the non-terrorists of the world. Anyone not against the terrorists, are for the terrorists. There is no in between, those days are gone forever for Americans.

    One can't live with a cannibal just because he isn't hungry today. Quality and security of life is as important as life itself. To say you are at ease with living the way Israel has lived in with the daily Russian Roulette killing game these past years is to say you don't value life, family, or country.


    PS The bow is equal to a salute or a handshake, a sign of respect.
     
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    The reason I posted this is because the picture looked phoney to me and I also never heard of the website and I wondered what everyone else thought.
     
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    :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
    Not real. Not a chance.
     
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    I do not know the heart of Bush either; I do not agree with his various statements that the Muslim Faith has brought comfort to millions of people, and I view these as political 'lip service.'

    But I do fully agree with the above quote. I don't have the exact words to quote, but I believe the Prime Minister of Israel speaking to Congress just after 9/11 said something of the same sort as Post-it said.

    I do not like the idea of 'going to war' but war is not waiting for us to find it.


    Bro. Dallas
     
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    I personally do not support this war in any way. I feel Bush is stirring up a hornets nest and causing more trouble than is needed. I just hope he doesn't get all our men killed and the rest of us in the process.

    karen
     
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    President Bush says he is a Christian. I accept that testimony.

    Saddam Hussein "ought to step down" as dictator of Irag.

    None of us have the pressure that OUR president has. Perhaps he could use PRAYERS.

    None of us has access to the info and evidence that Bush has. Perhaps a bigger threat exists against America than most of us think.

    IMHO Rufus :(
     
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    And the rest of us hope that you guys who believe we should sit back and wait for the mushroom cloud don't get us all killed.
     
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    True. But IF TRUE, why has Bush & Congress refused to put the US Military on our borders & at our ports and kept them porous? They have a mandate to protect & defend our country, according to the US Constitution. Would that not include our borders?

    Do you know how many terrorist cells are in the US but nobody knows where they are? The FBI and local law enforcement agencies are scurrying around trying to find out but the numbers are so huge, there isn't enough manpower. Estimated between 7 to 13 million ILLEGALs within the US today and many have been here on overstay visas or deported on paper but are nowhere to be found. And, YES, I will forever harp on this issue until the elected officials do what they are supposed to do.

    And Mike, I agree with you. If we hadn't "OBEYED" the United Nations back in 1991 and withdrawn, we wouldn't have to be refighting this issue today. Think of all the thousands of his own people who have been slaughtered at Saddam's hands. Let alone the fact that a terrorist is a terrorist is a terrorist and their ultimate aim is to destroy the US, democracy, and capitalism. (Not to mention the "religious goals.")

    Forget the UN.

    http://www.getusout.org/un/
     
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    Thanks for the site!!

    God Bless.
    bro. Dallas
     
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    Give me a break!

    It's getting to the point where GW Bush won't be able to eat at a Chinese Restaurant without someone "accusing" him of worshipping buddha.

    I've seen faith defenders propaganda before. THe site should be renamed Faith Offenders, as it makes the rest of us CHristian folks look bad.
     
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    As for the site, the picture actually looked like Bush was signing something, not worshiping...but still I am not in support of him taking us into war.

    karen
     
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    the picture actually looked like Bush was signing something

    Yes, I thought the same thing.
     

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