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  1. Palatka51

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    We cannot expect the Americans to jump from capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans small doses of socialism until they suddenly awake to find they have Communism.'
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    --Soviet Leader Nikita Khrushchev, 1959

    And something tells me that Communism went underground when the Berlin Wall came down.
     
  2. Jim1999

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    England adopted socialism in 1945 and Canada in the 60's. How many years do we have before communism takes over?

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

    Jim, you are still my hero!!

    Hope all is well with you and yours,
    BiR
     
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    Much of the essential bureaucracy and the public ownership are place so you're a whole lot closer than you think! All it will take for the next little step is some crisis - an "excuse" - for the government to put a centralized dictatorship in charge of all that bureaucracy and to seize the remaining holdouts of private property ownership. It will be done in the "greater interests of the people", of course!. You'd better get busy changing to capitalism while you can, if you can, to give yourselves some freedom room but you're in the high risk zone now.
     
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    Communism isn't underground. China and North korea are communist countries.
     
  6. Dragoon68

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    So are Cuba, Laos, and Viet Nam.

    The movement is not dead. It is still a powerful subsurface current that bubbles up in Russia and other parts of the former Soviet Union.

    It's growth is also well feed by the manure of socialism.
     
  7. Jim1999

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    Have you even examined how much is owned publicly (Government) in Canada? Industry is still in private hands. The Post Office is a public service and run by an independent government business...I believe the US Postal Service is the same.

    Indeed, hospitals, in the main, are publicly owned. When we fall ill, we don't lose our homes or are forced into private bankruptcy because we can't pay. I wouldn't have that any other way. Far from communism, it is democracy with social responsibility.

    Unions hold more power over many industries than does government. Lord help us if unions take over any more industry. Look at the mess they are in.

    No, I am not afraid of communism ever stepping in here.

    The actual socialist party here never gets more than 19% of the federal vote. The communist party of Canada never gets recognition. In fact, the Marijuana party gained more votes than they did.

    Cheers, and happy health,

    Jim
     
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    Baptist in Richmond,
    Thank you kindly, mate. You are far too kind to this old bloke. All are well here, ta.

    Cheers,

    Jim

    Funny thing. When we were fighting the communists in North Korea in 1950-53, we called ourselves comrades...we fighting soldiers..lol......I wonder if that is when communism started to infilterate us!
     
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    Then you're not as socialist as you suggested and you're still safe for a while but you'd better keep that 19% under control because they could grow like a cancer.

    No thanks on the government medical care - we can do better with a private system. We just need to get the litigation under control.
     
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    As usual, we disagree, especially on health care. Private health care has been a disaster.
     
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    It's not a "disaster" at all! People in the USA get excellent health care. There's a proliferation of hospitals, clinics, pharmacies, insurance, etc. We continue to find new and better treatments. People don't need to wait in long lines for services. People can change doctors if they don't like the one they have. The facilities are generally clean and modern. Preventative medicine is having greater effect every year. We have access to all kinds of health information from health care professionals, our employers, community events, and even the Internet. Even, people less wealthy, can go get "free" health care by going to any emergency room of any hospital. It can be expensive - especially for people with the means to pay - and that's largely because of litigation. It's not perfect but it's a tremendous blessing compared to some many areas of the world!
     
  12. Jim1999

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    Seventy-five per cent of all personal bankruptcies in the USA are related to health care expenses. Tis is a USA statistic, not mine.

    My one daughter is a medical doctor in Georgia....you might want to ask her about the comparison. Waiting lists, non-care, and people who can't pay being ambulanced from hospital to hospital until one will accept that patient.

    I must confess, in Canada, when I had my first stroke I waited at least 2 minutes in Emergency for treatment. I did wait 5 months for an mri..but the doctors already knew what was happenning and the mris was just to confirm the damage done from the stroke..no rush in that department. I don't owe a penny!

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    CANADA'S HEALTH CARE SYSTEM -- POOR VALUE FOR YOUR TAX DOLLARS

    Canada's taxpayers are not receiving the same sort of value that their counterparts in other nations are when it comes to universally accessible health care insurance, says Nadeem Esmail, of the Fraser Institute.

    For example:

    * Canada has the third most-expensive universal access health insurance system; only Iceland and Switzerland spend more as a percentage of gross domestic product (GDP) on their universal access health insurance systems than Canada did.
    * In 2007, waiting lists for access to health care in Canada reached a new all-time high of 18.3 weeks from a general practitioner referral to treatment by a specialist; this wait time is 54 percent longer than the overall wait time of 11.9 weeks back in 1997.
    * The number of Canadians without a regular physician is estimated to be around 5 million. .........


    http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=16747
     
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