No Bounce: Bush Job Approval Unchanged by War Speech

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  1. ASLANSPAL

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    I personally thought he got somewhat weak bounce
    from his base that bought him some time, but
    Zogby says no bounce.


    http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1007

    No Bounce: Bush Job Approval Unchanged by War Speech; Question on Impeachment Shows Polarization of Nation; Americans Tired of Divisiveness in Congress—Want Bi-Partisan Solutions—New Zogby Poll


    President Bush’s televised address to the nation produced no noticeable bounce in his approval numbers, with his job approval rating slipping a point from a week ago, to 43%, in the latest Zogby International poll. And, in a sign of continuing polarization, more than two-in-five voters (42%) say they would favor impeachment proceedings if it is found the President misled the nation about his reasons for going to war with Iraq.

    The Zogby America survey of 905 likely voters, conducted from June 27 through 29, 2005, has a margin of error of +/-3.3 percentage points.

    http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1007

    Now what is interesting the word impeachment has
    been breached, I personally would like to see
    a recall election to protect our country from
    further harm and incompetent decisions.
     
  2. KenH

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    I thank God that we have a president in office currently who doesn't base his policies on mere opinion polls but on what is best for America in the world war with al Qaeda. [​IMG]
     
  3. ASLANSPAL

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    Get real KenH of course his office looks at
    opinion polls ..what do you think Karl Rove does
    all day...he crunches numbers and dreams up new
    ways to divide the country. sheesh :rolleyes:
     
  4. KenH

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    Not anywhere near to the extent of the Bill Clinton administration. [​IMG]
     
  5. Magnetic Poles

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    I worry when an elected official doesn't give a hoot what the public thinks. He is OUR EMPLOYEE. He needs to listen to us.
     
  6. KenH

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    I would not want an elected official to stick his finger in the air first thing each morning and see which way the wind is blowing. We had eight years of Bill Clinton doing that and he did little to stop the growth of al Qaeda which resulted in the attacks on 9/11/2001.
     
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    A happy medium would be nice, though.
     
  8. KenH

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    A leader must lead, not follow, even when it's unpopular to do so.
     
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    KenH bush does not lead he stumbles into things
    and makes messes...that he has done his entire
    life you are living a enabling fantasy for bush
    he loves people like you to keep his dysfunction
    going...perhaps you can hold his towel while he
    works out and talks about his next workout but
    don't ask him when he is going to hit the road
    for the "Marriage Amendment"


    What is new is Zogby if the Americans get rock
    solid evidence he lied...he is impeachable material.

    Impeachment Question Shows Bitterness of Divide

    In a sign of the continuing partisan division of the nation, more than two-in-five (42%) voters say that, if it is found that President Bush did not tell the truth about his reasons for going to war with Iraq, Congress should hold him accountable through impeachment. While half (50%) of respondents do not hold this view, supporters of impeachment outweigh opponents in some parts of the country.

    Among those living in the Western states, a 52% majority favors Congress using the impeachment mechanism while just 41% are opposed; in Eastern states, 49% are in favor and 45% opposed. In the South, meanwhile, impeachment is opposed by three-in-five voters (60%) and supported by just one-in-three (34%); in the Central/Great Lakes region, 52% are opposed and 38% in favor.

    Impeachment is overwhelmingly rejected in the Red States—just 36% say they agree Congress should use it if the President is found to have lied on Iraq, while 55% reject this view; in the “Blue States” that voted for Massachusetts Democrat John Kerry in 2004, meanwhile, a plurality of 48% favors such proceedings while 45% are opposed.

    A large majority of Democrats (59%) say they agree that the President should be impeached if he lied about Iraq, while just three-in-ten (30%) disagree. Among President Bush’s fellow Republicans, a full one-in-four (25%) indicate they would favor impeaching the President under these circumstances, while seven-in-ten (70%) do not. Independents are more closely divided, with 43% favoring impeachment and 49% opposed.
     
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    I would love to that for someone I believe will go down as one of the greatest American presidents of all time. [​IMG]
     
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    1. There will never be "rock solid evidence" of such.

    2. If President Bush leaves or is removed from office, the we have President Cheney who I think will tap Condi Rice for Vice President.

    3. Cheney will not run for president in 2008 so Condi uses the leg up she received by becoming vice president to run in 2008 and defeats Hillary Clinton and becomes president on January 20, 2009.

    I could live with that scenario in points 2. and 3. :D
     
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    Good Morning ASLANSPAL:

    I would be inclined to agree with you to an extent, but I do not think Bush governs completely by polling numbers. For example: the tort reform legislation and the bankruptcy reform legislation were blatantly for Corporate America, and this was supported despite the fact that it was wildly unpopular. Also, look at CAFTA: it too is wildly unpopular, yet Bush is still very much in support of its passage.

    I am not a fan of the administration, but let's not get too hasty in impeachment. I don't know that Bush lied, but he was most definitely misinformed by people who did lie. Yet, imagine how much worse things would be if the VP were to become President. I wouldn't vote for him in ANY election.

    The very best to you and yours, ASLANSPAL,
    BiR
     
  13. Priscilla Ann

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    BiR:

    You are right. As much as I dislike Bush, Cheney would be even worse. Cheney appears to be absolutely ruthless.

    PA
     
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    You can say that again, Cheney runs the presidency not Bush. Cheney was operating the joy stick on 9-11 when Bush was in Florida being educated by grade school kids.
     
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    Hello, Priscilla Ann! Are you one of those Democrats who wants to pull out of Iraq and end the war with compromise? I think that Hoosier Democrats support the President's quest for victory in Iraq and he has until November 2006 to work but I know that some Democrats want a pullout such as Truman wanted in Korea and Johnson wanted in Viet Nam. I don't see how Democrats can stomach that Mormon cultist Harry Reid on top in the Senate along with Durbin who says that Americans are nazis and Kennedy who ran from a fatal accident because he said he feared for his well-being and Byrd who now admits 50 years later that being a big shot in the KKK was wrong because it gave him a lot of bad press lately. And I don't see how Democrats can put up with Howweird Dean who says that the GOP is white Christian only--what a racist remark!

    What is wrong with the Democrat Party? They seem very bitter about losing the elections.
     
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    cmg:

    Pull out of Iraq? I honestly don't know. Bush has made such a mess of things that I don't know what the answer is. Bush said we went to war because of WMD; however, there were no WMD. He keeps insinuating that this war is about the lessons of 09/11; however, Iraq had no link to 09/11. In spite of that, we are where we are. Bush needs to deal with reality, which seems to be a problem for him. We cannot babysit Iraq indefinitely, or it will become another Vietnam with more senseless loss of life and no real long-term solution for the people of Iraq.

    We Democrats are not bitter, just saddened by the course that Bush has set for this country. The world used to hold the United States in high regard. We used to have a reputation for doing the right thing; however, since Bush went to war under false pretenses, that is no longer the case. It seems that Tony Blair is the only friend we have, and that's not saying much!

    Bush can still do the right thing, but that will involve coming clean with the American people about his reasons for going to war, admitting that he was wrong about WMD, and then humbly asking for a cooperative effort to set the country back on the right track. I pray that he has the strength do do the right thing.

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    Faulty worldwide intelligence led to the conclusion that Iraq had WMDs and was ready to use them again. Clinton himself said that they had them.

    Setting aside the reasons for the war, the fact is that all of the terrorists in the Middle East from Syria, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Iran and elsewhere are coming into Iraq in order to murder innocent people in the hopes that the Western press will turn against the American government and the American military. We are engaged in a full-blown terrorist war.

    If the American people seek compromise as they did in Korea and Viet Nam--where North Korea is now an atomic power proxy of China and Viet Nam is a communist dictatorship where the blood of those against the communists has never stopped flowing since our pull-out--then the world will see us as too soft and too weak to fight to victory and the forces of Islamic terrorism will never cease and will never depart from America.

    The Democrats need to clarify their stance on the war. Sen. Reid, the Mormon cultist, needs to be replaced as does Howard Dean.

    There is no substitute for victory.
     
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    The bitterness of some of you is getting a little pathetic. :rolleyes: Face the facts and move on.

    George W. Bush will go down in history as one of the greatest Presidents of our time. [​IMG]

    And the people that are trying to destroy our country will go down as the Socialist, Communist and mentally unstable people who were controlled by bitterness, anger, hate and divisiveness. How “sad” our country would be if people like that were in charge. :eek:

    Polls are not accurate. [​IMG] There are too many factors that play into the results that are not completely reliable.

    Keep up the good work Mr. President. [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  19. OCC

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    I don't see anyone trying to destroy your country. That's a paranoia not based in fact. Many Democrats love America I believe.
     
  20. Enoch

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    KingJames,
    I do not consider your tedious negative opinion about my country very valuable. :rolleyes: If you think your energy/life is best spent here discussing my wonderful country in a negative tone... all I can say is I will pray for you.
     

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