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No due process

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by NaasPreacher (C4K), Sep 30, 2011.

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  1. mandym

    mandym New Member

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    Isnt there a "due process" internationally? When people are committing mass murder they must be stopped.
     
  2. NaasPreacher (C4K)

    NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

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    Where does the president get the right to order the execution of Americans without a trial?
     
  3. preacher4truth

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    We did the world, not just the U.S. a favor. This wasn't only about him, his cirizenship here, nor just the U.S.A.

    Sometimes you have to look beyond your own flag and see the whole world here. He killed, and/or was involved in those killed aboroad, and his death was not sought soley for the sake of the U.S.A. nor as a vengeance only from the U.S.A.

    I'd say more than a few are glad he was killed.
     
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    Perhaps, but I disagree here on Anwar.

    Usama was no U.S. citizen, and Anwar was of the same cloth. This wasn't a unilateral killing in the sense it wasn't "only for the U.S.A.", it was for others at risk also. I agree with how and why he was taken down.
     
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    Regardless of our constitution?
     
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    NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

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    So international affairs override our constitution?
     
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    Our constitution doesn't rule the world abroad. So in this case, over there, he deserved to die. No different than taking out a sniper as I showed you in the North Hollywood issue in '97. Did you complain then that they were shot in the head instead of arrested and pull the constitution out for a fair trial and to bring them to justice?

    How about the plethora of dummies with guns shot down to save others?

    Anwar was way more a threat than these.

    Sometimes justice doesn't have a defined protocol and force and action are necessary to terminate it immediately.
     
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    So to you citizenship means nothing if you do not like the guy?

    We have always said we are a country of the law. How can you justify violating the constitution in this way and still say we are a country of law?

    No one is arguing that. It is a matter of citizenship. What if the powers that be decide that you are a threat because you are an evangelical?

    Remember the poem about

    "When they came for me
    There was no one to speak up for me."
     
  9. preacher4truth

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    I read the poem. Have heard it too many times.

    Think bigger here.

    According to you, none should ever be shot and terminated but should be arrested after they run out of ammo and then brought to court. That's what you are saying in its logical conclusion.

    I'll pass on that.
     
  10. NaasPreacher (C4K)

    NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

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    The question is not whether or not this guy should have died. The question is where does President Obama get the right to order a hit on a US citizen, and if presidents have that right are any of us safe?
     
  11. preacher4truth

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    Anwar was brought to justice. Face it. :)
     
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    Where do police officers come up with this right to execute justice and take someone out that is a US citizen???

    It's absolutely no different.
     
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    The police don't launch missiles at suspects driving down the street. They don't kill people for their speeches or what they post on the Internet.
     
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    So Anwar was only an innocent driving down the street, and some guy who made speeches?

    By the way, missile, round of ammo, what difference does that make?

    Intrelligence said he was a threat, and not only corporate intelligence, common intelligence.

    He was brought to justice.

    Romans 13:4 is in order. And I'm no Obama supporter. Far far from it.
     
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    The unanswered question is still this? Where does a US president get the right to order a hit on a US citizen?
     
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    According to this article, there was a court case in which the judge refused to intervene to stop the intention of the United States to target this traitor.

    A few quotes

    Apparently the court had the opportunity to stop it and decided they could not. That, in this case the US had the right to target him.
     
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    Where do the police get such a right? When it's common sense?
     
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    Bush policy?

    What U.S. citizen did Bush drop bombs on?
     
  19. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    This is Patriot Act stuff, but at least President Bush never ordered the execution of a US citizen. To me this lend credence to all those stories about Presedent Obama's disregard for our constitution.
     
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    There were 2 occasions when US citizens were killed in attacks on other terrorists. They were not targeted, they were just along for a ride with friends. This was during President Bush's time in office.
     
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