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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by AndThisGospel, Feb 22, 2017.

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  1. Yeshua1

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    ONLY applies to the elect in Christ!
     
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    The Bible says they were chosen from before the foundation of the world. (The Roman believers.)
    It's not the gospel, but you keep saying it is. Does repeating a false statement eventually make it true?
    You seem to be calling Yahweh a father of lies. Why would you do that?
    You are caught in a conundrum. If the atonement is universally unlimited then everyone is saved. If not everyone is saved then the atonement is limited.
    Have you heard the expression "You can't have your cake and eat it to."?
     
    #102 MennoSota, Feb 24, 2017
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    Ironically, it strengthens our point and weakens yours, but you just can't see it.
    Carry on...
     
    #103 MennoSota, Feb 24, 2017
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    ...narc...
     
    #104 MennoSota, Feb 24, 2017
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    No, different contex!
    He really needs to quit channeling barth here, and start to understand what Paul meant!
     
    #105 Yeshua1, Feb 24, 2017
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    Care to buy an ice pick?
     
    #106 MennoSota, Feb 24, 2017
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    He stated would rather be a Catholic than one of us, so? Shows where his knowledge of the scripture is stuck at!
     
    #107 Yeshua1, Feb 24, 2017
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    That's a lie....
     
    #108 AndThisGospel, Feb 24, 2017
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    Explain...
     
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    No, silence means that you have no answers and that you would rather remain quiet then to put your foot in your mouth. You do it our of pride and self-preservation.
     
    #110 AndThisGospel, Feb 24, 2017
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    No, not an ice pick, but "the deceitfulness of sin"...
     
    #111 AndThisGospel, Feb 24, 2017
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    Then why do you believe it?
     
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    Where? In Christ

    God so loved the world (the fallen human race) that He reinstated them "in Christ", but not all will receive this truth. Those who reject it will remain under the curse....

    Yes, everyone has been saved from the curse of the law. Those who reject what Christ has already accomplished reject life. They will be judged by the law....
     
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    IS this the best you have to offer - wise-cracks?
     
    #114 AndThisGospel, Feb 24, 2017
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    The TRUE Gospel is that Death of Jesus provided for the reconciling back to God the elect in Christ, not for all of Mankind!
     
    #115 Yeshua1, Feb 24, 2017
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    No, It really points to a Catholic theology......loose salvation so go to confession---do it by the numbers....what they have in a nutshell is "Easy Believism". Trump will fix that though....LOL!
     
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    Provisional atonement is an Arminianistic concept, not Calvinistic....You must be hybrid of both? ;)
     
    #117 AndThisGospel, Feb 24, 2017
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    Do you confess when you sin?
     
    #118 AndThisGospel, Feb 24, 2017
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    Yawn. Keep telling yourself that if it feeds your ego.
     
    #119 MennoSota, Feb 24, 2017
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    Yes?
     
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