Non-KJVO forum?

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  1. StefanM

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    I've been thinking that perhaps there should be a designated forum in which non-KJVOs can discuss issues related to versions without being drawn in to the KJVO debate. It just seems like every thread in the versions forum devolves into KJVO debate regardless of the original topic.

    Any thoughts?
     
  2. Trotter

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    Yeah. It wouldn't last long, or the moderators would have to have combat pay to keep up with the intrusions.

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  3. StefanM

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    Password-protected, maybe?

    Or perhaps having a statement at the top that says that by posting in this forum one is affirming all translations as being the word of God?
     
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    Absolutely agree. I do wish there was a separate forum for the KJVO debate. Quite honestly, this board has lost some of its appeal to me over the past year for this very reason.
     
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    As much as I am NOT KJVO I would not qualify for that. I don't think ALL translations are the word of God.
     
  6. StefanM

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    How about the NASB? That alone would do the trick.
     
  7. Lacy Evans

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    That would be the most boring forum ever. No one would post there. Face it guys. You need us.

    Lacy

    A wise man once said, "If we are both the same, one of us is unnecessary."
     
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    Great response Bro Lacy ;) .

    Okay - I would not say that the NASB is not the word of God so I would qualify with that standard.

    If you be difficult to come up with a standard for osuch a forum.
     
  9. Dr. Bob

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    Anyone who asks for specific responses (like a topic for KJVO or for NON-KJVo) are honored.

    I am tired of the hijacking of every thread and the inane answers and lists of verses (as if cutting and pasting is somehow spiritual).

    So start a topic and ask for limited response. I will happily cut out posts from those with limited reading skills.
     
  10. michelle

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    Or you could all just ask me politely to leave this forum, and I would, if that is what you so desire.


    love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
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    michelle - if you would please cut out the pasting and pasting and pasting of verses that are unrelated it would be appreciated. Thanks.

    No one is asking you to leave. Just don't make every thread another kjvo issue. Thanks again.
     
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    As co-mod I agree with Dr Bob and would do the same. I would of course also honour a request by KJVo if they wanted to start a thread for a discussion in their own circle.
     
  13. Lacy Evans

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    Nah! We have our own boards for that and they're about as exciting as eating cobweb sandwiches on day old bread.

    Most of my friends are not KJVO. They put up with me somehow.


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    Lacy,

    You crack me up! [​IMG] Thanks for giving me a good lauph. I really needed that.


    love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
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  15. Craigbythesea

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    Lacy,

    Some of us may need you, but we do not need the false teachings of KJOism. The opinion that the King James Version of the Bible is THE perfectly preserved Word of God has, most pitifully and most shamefully, not only lowered the standard of Christianity, but destroyed its influence and disgraced its character. It requires but little knowledge of the spirit of the Bible, and the scope of its teaching about the Scriptures, to see plainly that the King James Version of the Bible, while a noble achievement in its day, is the most outdated translations of the Bible commonly known to man. Therefore, we, being those of good judgment and a sound mind, implore you to humble yourself before God and ask Him to reveal to you the truth of this most important matter.

    Craig, Adam [​IMG] , et. al.
     
  16. Ben W

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    Dont forget that KJVO is also quite &lt;attack snipped&gt; has no part in the Evangelical Church. :mad:

    [ August 03, 2004, 05:25 PM: Message edited by: C4K ]
     
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    I would go for that. [​IMG]
     
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    Brother Craig,

    I hear and appreciate your concern. However my opinion has not changed. I am honestly convicted (and I think that the scriptural and historical evidence bears it out) that the extra-biblical doctrine of "autograph-onlyism" has been the death knell of Fundamental Christianity. Where are the great revivals? where is the holiness, the renewed revelation? It is gone. The fruit of "autograph-onlyism" is doubt and despair. When sharing the gospel on the streets of Dallas, Fort Worth, and Midland, I run into very intelligent kids who have gotten the "autograph-onlyism" message:

    Nobody knows for sure what the Bible really says. If you don't like it, rummage around until you find a "version" you like. If one verse is wrong or even in doubt, then the whole house of cards is in doubt.

    Now you may not like to hear that but that is what modern men and women are using to justify their sin.

    I teach eight graders who average about a 4th grade reading. These kids couldn't read their way out of a wet paper bag, but they have gotten the "autograph-onlyism" message. They sit in church with mom and listen to the preacher say, "Now this is not really in the 'original', a 'better' translation would be, my favorite version says, most scholars agree, the 'oldest and best' manuscripts say, etc"

    Then they come to me and tell me that "nobody knows what the Bible really says." How did they figure that out? "Autograph-onlyism" is the catalyst for modern despair. the King James Bible OTOH, in it's day before it was overshadowed by doubt, was the catalyst for holiness and revival.


    I implore you also to examine the fruit honestly, to humble yourself before God and ask Him to reveal to you the truth of this most important matter.


    I am not here to argue. If my desire was to argue and win arguments, I'd become a college professor and argue with children. I am here because I love God's people, my brothers and sisters.

    Lacy
     
  19. StefanM

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    That assertion is not fair. In fact, that assertion isn't even in the same hemisphere as fair. There are many, many, many other factors contributing to the decline in those things.
     
  20. Lacy Evans

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    There can be no greater factor, when revival wanes and fizzles, than the loss of faith in the veracity of inspired scipture. (Other than perhaps the physical loss of the Bible itself.) Show me in the Bible where men stood on the "words" of God and revival failed to come.

    It doesn't take a lot of salt to get the soup tasting pretty good. But if the salt looses it's savor . . .

    Lacy
     

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