Novak Told Rove About Plame

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  1. KenH

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    "Rove testified that Novak originally called him the Tuesday before Plame's identity was revealed in July 2003 to discuss another story.

    The conversation eventually turned to Plame's husband, Joseph Wilson, a former ambassador who was strongly criticizing the Bush administration's use of faulty intelligence to justify the war in Iraq, the person said.

    Rove testified that Novak told him he planned to report in a weekend column that Plame had worked for the CIA, and the circumstances on how her husband traveled to Africa to check bogus claims that Iraq was trying to buy nuclear materials in Niger, according to the source....

    But at the same time, Wilson acknowledged his wife was no longer in an undercover job at the time Novak's column first identified her. "My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity," he said.

    Federal law prohibits government officials from divulging the identity of an undercover intelligence officer. But in order to bring charges, prosecutors must prove the official knew the officer was covert and nonetheless knowingly outed his or her identity...."

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    Another day of desperation and trying to weasel
    out...where are the baptist deacons..they need
    to talk to Rove! no weasel words tolerated!

    KenH...does rove take turns with Novak since
    Rove was fired by the first President Bush for
    leaking to that exact same person.

    according to Google this is getting over 2,000
    stories a day...rove is all that is wrong
    with politics he has a long history or weasel
    deeds ...even judas would be proud of the boy.

    In fact rove has the attributes of a person
    who will sell anyone out for money or try to
    save his own skin.
     
  3. church mouse guy

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    The trouble is, A-pal, that you have no proof--innocent until proven guilty since this is not Mexico where one is guilty till proven innocent.
     
  4. Baptist in Richmond

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    Don't forget: we are learning that wives are "fair game."
     
  5. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Aslan,

    You and the DEMS are barking up the wrong tree here. If you really want to embarrass Bush and score political points (which is all this is really about), you should start barking about the latest revelation from Tancredo. You DEMS should also present legistlation that would even stop the flow of illegal immigrants. That would be the way to get elected next year and in 08. This stuff is just making you guys look petty and bitter.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    Why bother?
    Bush will veto it.
     
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    And then the DEMS could use it against him and the GOP in the next election, and they don't have to live with something they didn't really want anyway. It is a win win for the DEMS.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    Novak's own statement contradicts story that HE told Rove about Plame, and not vice versa


    Today's big story is that Rove supposedly never gave Valerie Plame's name to Novak - but rather that Novak mentioned Plame was CIA and Rove said "yeah I heard that too," or something to that effect.

    In fact, here's what Novak said in his first interview that we know of just after he leaked Plame's name in print:
    Novak, in an interview, said his sources had come to him with the information."I didn't dig it out, it was given to me,"he said. "They thought it was significant, they gave me the name and I used it."
    Read that again. I didn't dig it out, it was given to me - they gave me the name. That does not jibe with Rove's anonymous buddy telling the NYT that it was Novak who first brought up Plame as CIA and NOT Rove.

    Not that any of this matters. Rove confirmed the identity of a CIA agent to Novak, he affirmatively outed that agent to TIME, and then he and the White House lied about it to the media and the American public for two years. But it is interesting to note that this new story from Rove's handlers totally contradicts what Novak himself said two years ago.

    So who's lying - Novak or Rove?

    PS Another possibility is that Rove wasn't one of the "two administration officials" who told Novak about Plame. In that case, we've got two more, and not one more, Bush administration traitor on the loose.
     
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    plenty of discussion though mouse [​IMG]

    do unto others as they would do unto you..right

    mouse [​IMG]
     
  10. Scott J

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    Wait... Wilson and Plame violate the trust of their office in an attempt to do partisan political damage and the fact that their names came up in conversations with the media concerning their treachery makes administration officials who were involved criminals, traitors, etc.?

    A Senate investigation determined that Wilson had greatly exaggerated (read "lied") about his report, its use, and its distribution within the administration. This tempest was caused when Wilson's desire to do political damage to Bush resulted in the media asking questions and piecing things together.

    The guilt (all of it) lies squarely on the shoulders of Wilson and Plame... they were in positions where it was incumbent upon them NOT to play partisan politics. Yet they obviously did.
     

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