Now is the time to ask what this election was about.

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  1. carpro

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    http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=38899

    Americans Embrace Childish Unity
    Thursday, November 06, 2008
    By Ben Shapiro

    The Great Election of 2008 is over. Barack Obama is the 44th President of the United States.

    Now is the time to ask what this election was about.

    Here’s what this election was not about: Barack Obama. It was not about his record: He didn’t have one. It was not about his views, which are radical in the extreme. It was not about his associations: Americans didn’t care about Wright, Ayers, or Khalidi. The media didn’t want Americans to know about Obama. Obama didn’t want Americans to know about Obama. And Americans didn’t want to know about Obama.

    This election was not about John McCain. No one cared about McCain, except the liberal media that nominated him president after one win in New Hampshire.

    This election was not about President George W. Bush. Bush was used as a punching bag by both sides—and by election time, he was completely irrelevant.

    And this election was certainly not about the issues. In the general election, Barack Obama campaigned as a centrist, titularly abandoning his more extreme positions to do so. He lied about his policies. And no one cared.
     
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    I think it is safe to say that those points are correct for most of America. However, for some of us the issues were high priority and the election was all about driving back the liberal hordes who are trying to steal our country.
     
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    Any time there's a disastrous Presidency like that of George Bush the other party wins in a landslide. That's exactly what happened. If the good Christian people here had been able to see this coming in 2004 the result might have been different.
     
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    I am not sure what it was about but it demonstrated the power of the leftist and the leftist controlled media. Except for a short time after 9/11 the media and certain leftists in Congress [Durbin, Reid, Schumer, Pelosi, and assorted others] have called Bush a liar who misled the American people and started an unjust war. It is also true that rogue elements in the CIA, and possibly the FBI, leaked classified information to the NY Times to damage Bush and the country. [No weapons of mass destruction in Iraq; that was Saddam Hussein and his two sons.]

    The leftist press have told the American people that we were in a recession since Bush "whupped" up on Gore in Florida. It is still true that most people get their "news" from ABC, CBS, and NBC and it is all biased way left. Well they finally got their recession. What will Obama do? Blame Bush!
     
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    I wouldn't call getting 52% of the vote a "landslide." It is a testament to the weakness of Obama as a candidate that he didn't get 60%+ of the vote. Considering the perfect storm he had going for him, 52% is really a failure.
     
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    Though I agree it wasn't a "landslide," 52% for any presidential candidate is not a failure. I'm not going to try to go through all the numbers (and they should be available from some source if we looked), but I would speculate the median popular vote for the winning candidate in our national elections is less than 52%, with several not getting a majority-- including Slick Willie twice.
     
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    Hellooooo! Great post.
     
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    But this time around there were no serious third party candidates to make a dent in the numbers. In fact, I would venture a guess that the '08 election featured one of the lowest third party vote totals in history - they accounted for only 1.30% of the vote this year. That is extremely low. Anyone want to do the legwork to see how that compares to past elections? My guess is that 1.30% is in the top 3 of all time for fewest third party votes.

    So I stand by my claim - 52% was a very poor showing considering all that Obama had going for him.
     
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    How old are you? THIS was not a landslide. Almost half the country voted for McCain.

    Go back to Goldwater if you want to see a landslide.

    Debbie Mc
     
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    Remember what I said about referring to others as un-American?

    It's our country too...
     
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    I don't know about this one, I thought the Republican's voted him in during the primaries. Either he had the delegates or he was the last one standing because of his wifes money.
     
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    Not a chance.

    I wouldn't have voted for the treasonous Kerry under any circumstance.
     
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    One positive note: You have to go all the way back to Eisenhower to find a non-governor who served 2 complete terms. Kennedy almost surely would have, had he lived, and Nixon brought his calamity on himself. But perhaps this does indicate that experience as a 'chief executive' is underrated for the presidency in modern America. Maybe it has similarities to a young minister's first pastorate often not being successful, or a highly acclaimed coordinator's first job as head coach often not working out [Fred Robinson, Ron Prince]. It can be quite different when you're at the "top." And Eisenhower, quite notably, did have experience at the 'top.'
     
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    For me this election was about many things which were not part of either McCain's nor Obama's campaign:

    It was about reveiwing and reversing some of NAFTA.
    It was about stoping the Transcontinental Superhighway and allowing good to enter to the heartland of the US through the customs at SmartPorts such as the one planned for Kansas City.
    It was about securing our borders against unauthorized and undocumented.... or IOW illegal entry.
    It was about supporting our border guards.
    It was about being a better friend to our friends.... and maintaining a position of strength with those who are or could be our enemies.
    It was about maintaining our national sovereignty.
    It was about respecting the sovereignty of other nations and the right to negotiate but not interfer government.
    It was about whether or not the FCC would be held accountable to breaking up monopolies held by the major news media, which are currently controlling and limiting the information we receive.
    It was about assurring us that the internet would remain open to unregulated communication except for pornography.... or site identification which allows parental control.
    It was about freedom of speech for all individuals.... for open prayer on the steps of the Surpreme Court and other public places to freedom in the pulpit for a minister to lead however he feels led of God without concerns that his speech may be identified as 'political' and his ministry or church be threated by investigation.
    It was about protecting the yet to be born and professing a respect for all human life.... beyond the lip service for health care, or welfare.
    It was about being a true friend of Israel, and supportive of their sovereignty.
    It was about closing the war in Iraq.
    It was about returning our soldiers from overseas and decreasing the size of our footprint in other countries.
    It was about proposals to open our oil fields to production and utitilization of natural gas..... and promoting incentives for research and development or making energy technologies already produced for the DOD or the Space Program available with incentives for affordablity and availabiility for folks who would like to get off the grid.
    It was about the right to ownership of ones' land and rights of individuals to chose the best use.
    It was about identifing regulatory agencies and their relationships with the ones being regulated to reduce comprimising standards or mixed loyalities as to purpose.
    It was about acknowledging that something must be done about illegal aliens and that something would be done.
    It was about acknowledging the importance of the family unit within society and to the nation as a whole and that efforts would be taken to help keep it strong.
    It was about recognizing the importance of local law enforcement officers and sheriffs departments as our first line of protection, enforcement and defense and a strong desire to work through these sources rather than impose rule over them when concerning internal issues not related to terrorism.
    It was about acknowledging our encouragement and support of the interest of our neighbors to the north and south, Canada and Mexico, while maintaining our own interest, not selfishly withholding considerations for their good and welfare.... without unnecessary involvement nor dependancies on their internal processes.
    Returning regulation to the commodities and derivatives markets. Regulating fractionalized banking which has created a false economy but places all at risk.
    Reducing the size of government and returning the people so trained and the monies back to the states for greater control and freedom to use as the people within each state determine to be best.
    It was about limiting foreign ownership or access to our resources and lands.
    It was about giving Congress the control of our Federal Reserve and bringing the IRS into accountability to Congress.
    It was about nominating and qualifying judges for the Supreme Court based upon their knowledge of law and adherance to The Constitution of the United States.
    It was about a review and withdrawal from all treaties not yet ratified and rescinding any clauses which yeild our sovereign power as a nation to others or groups of others.

    These were my issues.... And I don't think I saw one major candidate address any 2 or 3 of them in any encouraging or definitive way.
     
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    Isn't it funny how people forget...

    When Bush won in 2004 it was a mandate from the people.. everyone remember those words???

    Well Bush only won 286 electoral votes and 50.7% of the popular vote... In 2000 he only won 271 electoral votes and lost the popular vote...

    Now, I am not happy about Obama winning and I don't think because he got better number he should be free to do what he wants without be held accountable, but you have to admit, that whatever the reason for people voting this year, Obama got more of the people on this country behind him then Bush every did and when Bush won you guys were willing to wait and see... to find out what he would do and give him some time.. Can't you do the same for Obama?

    With 364 electoral votes and 52.5% of the popular vote I think he deserves the respect of the office and people. Let's see what he can do.
     
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