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NRA Recommendation

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Salty, Dec 21, 2012.

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  1. blackbird

    blackbird Active Member

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    But you've got to hand it to us, ole Mate----every now and then the citizens will swim close enough to the edge for the world to see-----there IS a fish in that tank!!!!:saint::saint::type:
     
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    Written by a Canadian (not a US gun supporter). It is a 21 page report filled with graphs, charts, footnotes, & stats to support the opinion given.
    -- Emphasis added --
    http://www.saf.org/journal/16/TheFailedExperiment.pdf

    Look at the color of the water in your own glass fishbowl before casting stones at ours.​
     
    #22 Oldtimer, Dec 22, 2012
  3. Revmitchell

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    The premise of this statement is false, being that guns are the problem. And that a lack of them will cure the problem and no more killing will take place. What you are being is silly.
     
    #23 Revmitchell, Dec 22, 2012
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    I agree. Obama was elected . . . TWICE.
     
    #24 Aaron, Dec 22, 2012
  5. blackbird

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    Only means there's a Parana in the bowl with us goldfish!!
     
    #25 blackbird, Dec 22, 2012
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    Well said. :thumbs:
     
    #26 Revmitchell, Dec 22, 2012
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    No.
    The premise of the statement is that firearms leverage the damage potential of the problem.

    firearms do nothing to fix the problem. They just make it worse.
     
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    Using the term "weapons" discredits you. How many "weapons" are we going to outlaw? What weapon was used in the Oklahoma City Bombing?
     
    #28 Revmitchell, Dec 22, 2012
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    Of course you will have noted I edited my post to change the word 'weapon' to 'firearm', about the same time as you responded. I felt I had been overemphasising the term, although it is strictly correct.

    Tell me what weapons other than firearms you would like available for random killings?

    In what way does my use of the term 'weapon' discredit me?

    I certainly hope to emphasise that firearms are not toys. They are in fact designed as weapons, and their prevalence in the community facilitates their use in taking the lives of people.
     
    #29 Streetsweeper, Dec 22, 2012
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    There is no such thing as "unarmed security." The proper term is "the guy who runs away first when the guy with the gun arrives."

    And in most states armed security officers must not only undergo training (8 hours classroom and 6 hours range time on top of security training usually equaling about 40 hours - at least in California) but also pass an extensive FBI background check. :)
     
    #30 TCassidy, Dec 22, 2012
  11. Oldtimer

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    Isn't any object used to inflict injury and/or death on another person a "weapon"? Regardless of whether it's used offensively or defensively.

    Since the atom was first split to produce a weapon, would you also propose that all uses of nuclear energy be banned, as well? Forbid its use in hospitals, for example, as it can kill as well as heal? Killing people isn't the only use for firearms.

    How about any compound that can bring about death if injested, whether intended, accidental, or as an act of murder?

    What steps has Australia taken to remove knives from the hands of her citizens? From what I gather, knives are the weapon of choice there.

    Further, how do you explain away the death rate statistics of the Swiss where almost every man is legally required to own a firearm?
     
    #31 Oldtimer, Dec 23, 2012
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