Nuclear Option

Perhaps. I don't expect many, the Dems that came in, came in as gun-totin bible-thumpers. Unless everyone of them were lieing, I think congress has seen the damage that can be done.

 

Politicians never lie . . .

Do they?

 

I don't know. I seem to remember the GOP allowing Clinton to put a far leftist on the Supreme Court because they were "qualified". It was the Dems who made the ideology of a nominee fair game... They know how devastating to their agenda jurists are that actually believe in the principles spelled out in the Constitution.

 

I think you will hear the silence you mentioned..... Everyone wants everything when they are in power, and I don't think they realize that some day they won't be in power and everything they have "given to themselves" will be in the hands of the other group.

Both parties are currupt!


Jamie

 

Correct me if I am wrong, but the nuclear option was never used. Maybe they did realize that someday it could be used against them and decided to not use it unless absolutly needed. In the end the problems were solved without it.

Of course it has been used in the past.

 

IMO the Nuclear Option would not be needed if Senate Rule 22 that alowes procedural filibusters was revoked.

Allow filibusters, but make the senitor stand and speak for the whole time. When he/she is done speaking it is time to vote. I dont think it is to much to ask for a fair up or down vote, no matter what side puts the issue up.

 

I never said they did use it. I said the only that thing you give yourself to use, know that the other group will get it at some point and time.

The Republicans didn't use it because they group of 14? from both parties got together and work through the problem.

Just because they didn't use it, I can't say they wouldn't have... They just didn't need to this time around.

Jamie

 

In your original comment you make it sound like the Republicans invented this. I posted where Senitor Bird (D) used it in 77,79,80 and 87. So by what you are saying because Bird gave this power to the Dems the majority party the Repubs should have used it.

BTW neither the Repubs or the Dems invented this or threatened to use it first. It was the Whigs. Senator Henry Clay threatened to use it in 1841.

 

I am sorry, but I see you want to try to spin this somehow. I just said that whatever people give themselves while they are in power, it will come back to haunt them when they are not in power.

Every heard the saying what goes around, comes around?

I am not pointing blame at the Republicans or the Democrats. If you knew me, from my posts, you would know that I think both parties pretty much suck.

Also, I never said who invented it.. never even implied it..

The Question of this thread was would the option go silent now that the Democrats had won, and my answer in short is yes.

Nothing more, nothing less..


Jamie

 

I am not spining anything. And I am not accusing you of anythink, relax. I only wanted to point out that the Republicans did not use the Nuc option so they should expect the Dems to refrain from useing it also. It would be nice if the Dems would have not used the procedural filibuster, maybe the Repubs will take the high road and not use it. What I have said fits with your post.

At least we agree on one thing

 

I cant throw out a tidbit of trivia without you thinking somebody is accusing you of something.

I thought it was interesting who used it first so I posted it. Whats the deal with the "I never said" stuff.

 

Sure you can, but when you post this:

It sure seems you're accusing me of saying something I didn't..

I understand, from your posts, it would seem that you're a die-hard Republican, at least in this past election, so I can understand you wanting to "protect" them.

My only problem with that is they aren't worth protecting. We really should find another party that will better reflect our views and stop protecting and speak up for a party that is at best "the lessor of two evils...

On this thread, we will have to agree to disagree :flower: and I will say I am done with it. A question was asked, and I answered with my opinion.

Again... nothing more... nothing less...


Jamie

 

I was trying to get you to understand what I was responding to. It seems we are not understanding each other.

No, I am not a die hard Republican. I think the Republican party is moving to the political left almost as fast as the Dems. I am a die hard conservative and there is no party that reprisents my views.

Your right neither party is worth protecting but what am I going to do, vote for the Libertarians (pot and abortion) the Constitution party (isolationists) So I tend to vote Republican and hope for somebody better to come along. Or another Ronald Regan to come on stage.