Numbers 31 ???

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  1. Jball

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    Sorry that this is my first post but after lurking a while....I've decided just to come out and ask. What is this about? Why would God want this? Surely there could have been another way. Genocide commanded by God??? I am sorry mods if this is innapropriate but I can not get past this area in my study.

    Sincerely looking for answers, Jim :confused:
     
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    Yep. I agree. From the standpoint of our day and age, it does indeed seem extreme.

    I am not a mod and cannot speak for them, but personally I do not think any sincere question about the character and nature of God as revealed in Scripture is anappropriate.

    Just quickly though, its my bedtime, I will give a brief response.

    The people in the land of Caanaan were very immoral and very wicked. God delayed their judgement for 400-430 years as their iniquity reached crisis levels. The command for the Jews to wipe them out with the sword was not all that different from the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah or the global flood in Noah's day.

    God is a righteous God and sin deserves His wrath. The attribute of His love requires that sin be punished. If I love my family, anything that threatens them requires action on my part!

    The wickedness of the Caanaanites should not have been allowed to remain in the land at all. Israel was not fully obedient and the sins of the nations around them brought them down. They should have fully obeyed the voice of the Lord.

    Not sure if this is what you wanted or expected, but about the best I can do with the time I have for now.
     
  3. Jball

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    Thank you! Answers some, but I am still puzzled.
     
  4. rjprince

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    Welcome to the club!!! My post says I am from Georgia, but mostly I live in the state of confusion! We have lots of tourists from time to time. Me, I am a long time resident, no, better a permanent native! Most of my family lives here too, they just won’t admit it!
     
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    Maybe I can help.

    A little background on the gods of the Midianites:

    They worshipped Baal.

    Snipped from the Internet:
    Baal was also a related god to Molech.

    Along with these gods was the temple prostitution of various types.

    That is the background.

    Here is a summary from one source (the article is very lengthy, and I only skimmed it, but here are the highlights - the lengthy discussion is found at the link / source below:

    http://www.christian-thinktank.com/midian.html

    Please note, I did not read the entire web page, only skimmed it. Sorry for my long post.
     
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    Pretty good LE.
     
  7. Jball

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    Thank you for the replies, but why wouldn't the men who had committed adultery have been punished by God? I also had read some other articles, some from a Pastor friend and others from the web, they all said very similar things.

    I don't know why or if the Isreali men were brought to justice? Wasn't this a very severe crime to them? Or was it just un-faithful women?

    Jim
     
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    From my post: "Israel ‘falls for it’, and likely makes a ‘covenant’ with a Canaanite fertility god of vegetation (Baal Peor), and are judged by God (at least 24,000 Israelites die of a plague, most of which are males)"
     
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    To answer this question, genocide came directly from God with the Great Flood. In the end times, genocide will come directly from God again when He destroys the earth by fire and creates the New Heaven and New Earth.
     
  10. HankD

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    LE is right.

    The wrath of God is not a pretty picture but we are His creation to do with as He please if we do not respond to the shed blood of His only Begotten the Lord Jesus Christ.

    But, ironically, He has made Christ to be the heavenly City of Refuge where we flee to escape the wrath to come of the blood avenger.

    The Caananite peoples were locally given over completely to total depravity (as manifested by cannibalism, infanticide, incest and bestiality) as presumably were the pre-flood global population and our Heavenly Father destroyed them as well as He commanded the Hebrew Nation to destroy the Amorites and the Caananites the descendants of Anak and Amalek.

    Genesis 15
    16 But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.

    Soon enough the days of Noah, Sodom and Gommorah which have recently and suddenly come upon us will fully ripen into the Wrath of the Lamb.

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