Numbers Don't Lie: Why Our Nation Is In Serious Trouble

Yep, that's pretty much how I understood the problems of his presidency and how I was taught it in my american history class during my undergrad years. Particularily since he didn't want to run to begin with.

 

I assume then that you don't think it's important for a presidential team to have private sector experience?

 

I think it is important to get the best person for the job regardless of whether they are from private industry or from the public sector. Qualifications and ability is what is important. If the best person has only a third grade education, but is the best at the job ... give it to him./her

 

Do you believe that is what we got with Obama?

 

Totally off topic question. Stay with the subject.

Both the best and the worst presidents have used people from the private sector as shown in the OP.

 

If it is important to get the best person for the job in the cabinet doesn't it also apply to the office of the President that they serve?

Or is that even you can't bring yourself to say that Obama is the best person for the job that he holds?

 

He was the better of the choices we had. Was he the best possible. I doubt he was. But then I do not know who wuld be the best. Now that he is president I hope he selected his advisers well. Did he do this? Ask me again in three years. We will have a much better idea then.

Now stay with the topic please.

 

Do you think that he was even the best Democrat candidate in the primaries?

 

Much of this information originally came from an article titled "Obama's Business Blind Spot" by Michael Cembalest published by Forbes.com on 11/24/2009.

 

Aren't you taking some data assembled from published facts and putting it aside in favor of some subjective opinons about which Presidents were "good" or "bad"?

It seems that the message, instead, is that Obama's administartion has a very low percentage of cabinet members with prior business experience. That means they don't really understand what generates profit or loss, employment or un-employment, or growth or decline in the private sector. That means they probably think they understand the government sector. Perhaps this is the reason for the proposed government solutions to all our problems. Unfortunately, the private sector is the only one that provides any real goods and services for the consumer. Therefore, the government sector is dependant upon the private sector for its source of income.

 

I'd suggest you read the link I posted on the first page:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ays-less-10-percent-obama-cabinet-members-ha/

The author of this study admits that he was subjective and did not stick to the facts. In fact, he says he regrets publishing the data.

 

Your list of the ten worst Presidents seemed flawed to me. For example, William Harrison died shortly after taking office, 40 some odd days I believe, from pneumonia caught while giving his inaugural speech in a cold rain. How could you possibly judge a Presidency on that length of time? Buchanan was given a bad rap for the circumstances. The country was on the brink of civil war. The Fort Sumter incident started in his term, and yes, he was indecisive, but anything he did would have resulted in disaster. On the other hand, why aren't Richard Nixon, Lyndon Johnson, and Jimmy Carter on the bottom ten? Andrew Johnson was not that bad of a President. He wanted to carry out Lincoln's policy of treating the South kindly. It was nothing but politics between him and the Radical Republicans in Congress.

 

Agreed. His list is flawed.

 

Hey folks...bumping this up. Matt's link shows that this is false.

 

Like that makes a difference in a discussion here.

 

:laugh: Not a whit. The Obama haters will defend Beck regardless of the facts. Now if such a mistake was shown to have been made by a liberal immediately the haters would be screaming LIAR.

Maybe Beck should start checking his fact checkers ... oh, that's right, he is an entertainer and as Mark Twain said, "Never let the truth stand in the way of a good story, unless you can't think of anything better."

:laugh:

 

I predict a 'shoot the messenger' response now

 

No, it doesn't.

It questions the criteria but proves nothing.

 

from the refutation:

So apparently, it's not entirely true.

I retract my claim, insofar as the statistics were wrong.

However...keep in mind that in one of Obama's writings, he referred to his private-sector experience as "working behind enemy lines." So philosophically, there is no change.