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Obama: A Hit On Leno???

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by righteousdude2, Mar 20, 2009.

  1. matt wade

    matt wade Well-Known Member

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    Gotta love it. They can throw personal attacks, but they can't explain why the President can't be on late night talk shows.
     
  3. righteousdude2

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    Here's My Explanation

    It's not that he shouldn't appear on Leno....in fact, I agree that it is an interesting concept, and it could become a very novel venue to get politics into the front-room, or as Leno says, the bedrooms of lots of Americans.

    My only concern with his appearance was that I think it may be the wrong time. We are in the midst of a serious national crisis, and I did not feel that this was the best time to appear on such a light-hearted entertainment venue.

    Making one liners, and trading barb's with Leno sends the wrong message to a lot of Americans who are suffering and losing all they own. It also sends a bad message to the countries around the world. I am quite sure that most of the Arab countries, especially Iran, had a lot to point out about the appearance of the Great Satan's leader on "tinsel-town's" number one late-night talk show.

    Of course, it's OK for Bin Laden to post his threat messages on the Al Jazeer TV network, but, the radical Muslims are hypocritical as to all things American.

    The POTUS should probably have waited until he had a handle on this crisis [after all AIG had just exploded]. It would be like Bush going on Leno several days after FEMA failed to arrive in a timely manner, and national criticism was at a fever-pitch after Katrina struck the Gulf Coast. IMHO, and it is only my opinion, timing has to do with everything, and while the Leno show was a good effort to put the POTUS in front of Americans, it was probably the wrong time, with so many people losing homes, and many more living on the streets.

    There is my answer. You may not like it, but, that is your prerogative, so go ahead and trash my comments, but, NEVER say I didn't give you my answer as to why Obama screwed up royally with his appearance on Leno.....

    Shalom, and His Love,

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  4. matt wade

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    I appreciate your answer. It's well thought and has a basis in reality. You are right, I don't agree with your comments, but we are allowed to disagree :).

    I disagree because it implies that while there is anyone suffering in the world that other people that are not suffering should not enjoy themselves. If that's the case then none of us should ever do anything enjoyable, since there is always suffering.

    The job of being President is a taxing job. You are basically expected to be working (or on call) 24 hours a day 365 days a year. Give anyone who is in that office a break and let them relax a little bit. If that means that they go to a ball game or go on Leno, whatever. They deserve it.
     
  5. righteousdude2

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    Scriptures Tell Us.....

    .....in Romans 12:15 - "Rejoice with those who rejoice [sharing others' joy], and weep with those who weep [sharing others' grief]." We need to be thoughtful to the loss of so many, Matt. That is Christian love, "agape style!". To not care and follow the words of Paul is nothing less than "sloppy agape!"

    Shalom,

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  6. matt wade

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    I agree that we need to be thoughtful about the loss many have incurred. We also need to help them in any way we can. But should we all put aside any pleasures because others may be going through a time without pleasure?
     
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    Louis Farrakhan said it last year before the election to a group of his followers, who were saying BHO wasn't black enough. He was giving his ok for them to vote for him and called him the Messiah, if I recall correctly.
     
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    Frankly the country will be better off if he stays on late night comedy shows. He is an incompetent boob and when in DC all he does is attempt to move the country closer to Socialism,:tear: Fascism,:BangHead: Nazism, :tonofbricks:Marxism.:praying:
     
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    Farrakhan did lay the title messiah on O'bama rex.
     
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    Yes....He Did Give That Anointing to Obama

    You are correct OR....it was the radical Farrakhan who referred to BHO as the nation's messiah. And it is the ego, and alter ego of Obama that is seizing the moment and acting like the first king of America.:applause:

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  11. matt wade

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    Hmm..from what I can see Farrakham (yes, he's a wacko and a nutjob) referred to Obama as the Messiah in early October 2008.

    I can find references of Sean Hannity calling him the Messiah in August 2008.

    So, I still don't know who started it, but I do know that there are many "conservatives" on this board that continue to call Obama the Messiah. It's irreverant if you ask me.
     
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    :laugh:

    This from the same person who can't understand why the president shouldn't be a rock star trading jokes and insulting the developmentally disabled on national television.
     
  13. matt wade

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    First, don't lie about my words. Please let me know where I've said that I was OK with his insult about the Special Olympics? In fact, my comment on that thread said, "his comments shows that he does not view the handicapped as equal with "normal" people".

    Secondly, what does my opinion on whether Obama goes on a late night talk show have to do with not showing the proper reverence to God? I don't equate him to the Messiah. If I did equate him to the Messiah (as others on this board do), that would be irreverent. I just said it shouldn't be a big deal for him to go on a talk show.

    The only person that has even attemped to give me a decent explanation as to why Obama can't do on a talk show is righteousdude2 and I respect him for that. The others, including you carpro, just hurl insults and ignore the question. So, why don't you answer it? Why is it a big deal for the President to go on a talk show? Was it ok for him to go to a ball game? How about his appearance on 60 Minutes, was that OK? Can he watch TV at night, or is that having too much fun? People are suffering you know, so maybe we shouldn't allow him to have any fun with his kids?
     
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    Oh , please....:rolleyes:
     
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    As expected, more attacks and no answers. So much for civilized debate. You must take lessons from Sean Hannity or Ann Coulter. :laugh:
     
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    If you say so.
     
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    If you want a smörgåsbord of insults, just check out Carpro's past postings. For some reason the administration and moderators allow him to continue to skillfully call other posters liars, impugn their character, and question their salvation. I guess since he is an extreme conservative, he is allowed to get away with it. The sad thing is that this does not set a good example for others to see. I believe the only thing that can be done it to pray for him and either put up with his insults or put him on your ignore list.
     
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    Its not the idea of him being ON Leno-----or Oprah---or whoever---a man of the caliber of President of the United States SHOULD be able to control what he SAYS on those shows---but you know something??? No matter the caliber----fallen man is going to SAY fallen things no matter if he's President or drives a garbage truck-------on Leno's show---the President exposed his mind to millions of people who heard---and if he says that in a "green tree" what will he say in a "dry tree??"
     
  19. matt wade

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    And that I completely agree with. He should control what he says, just as the rest of us should. I shouldn't walk around cracking jokes about the Special Olympics and neither should the President.

    What I was debating, however, was that some people seem to believe that he shouldn't be allowed to go on a show like Leno at all. That somehow it is degrading to the office of President. The ones supporting that position still have yet to tell me why (except for righteousdude2).
     
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    Not much.

    But I haven't seen any lack of reverence for the real Messiah. Only the phony one, Obama.

    So what's your point?
     
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