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Obama & Acorn

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Bro. Curtis, Sep 29, 2008.

  1. Bro. Curtis

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    As negotiations over Congress’s emergency rescue bill continued over the weekend, repeated rumors leaked out that the Democrats were trying to funnel money to a hyper-partisan organization involved in criminal voter fraud. I’m speaking of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now — known by its acronym, ACORN. Although ACORN was cut from the final legislation, it’s important to understand this organization and its long history with, of all people, Barack Obama. And it’s important to see how partisan this emergency legislation has become.
    As the weekend progressed, reports were constantly emerging of the sticking points preventing a final agreement. One of these reputed points of contention was whether 20 percent of the profit proceedings for asset sales in the future would go to what is called the Housing Trust Fund, subsidizing certain groups for ostensibly nonpartisan activity. One of these groups that this trust supports is ACORN.
    ACORN has often been in the news since 2004. Officially, they work to register voters and support housing. In reality, everyone in public life knows that they are hardcore supporters for the Democratic Party, and employ bare-knuckle tactics. Their organization is plagued by repeated investigations of voter fraud and other crimes.
    In Ohio, where as secretary of state I oversaw elections for eight years, ACORN has been busy. One ACORN man in Reynoldsburg was indicted on two felony counts of voter fraud, and another was indicted in Columbus. Other such problems surfaced in Cuyahoga County, where criminal investigations are ongoing.
    It’s not just Ohio. ACORN personnel are facing criminal charges in over a dozen states. In Washington State, for example, seven ACORN leaders had felony charges filed against them for voter fraud.
    And there’s an unexpected twist. One of the organizations accused of pushing banks into making many of the unwise loans at the heart of the current crisis is … ACORN. Now that’s ironic. An organization that possibly contributed to our current financial profits is now being considered to make money off of it. And by “money,” I’m referring to your tax money.
    Twice already this year Congress has funneled money to ACORN. Some report that February’s economic stimulus included funds for ACORN, as did the bill to help people struggling with mortgages passed this April.
    What deserves closer scrutiny is Barack Obama’s history with ACORN. Obama cites Saul Alinsky, a self-acknowledged radical who advocated extreme acts to achieve social goals, as one of his inspirations.
    ACORN follows the Saul Alinsky model. After Obama graduated from Harvard, he went to work for ACORN in Chicago. Mr. Obama then became a trainer for ACORN, teaching others how to employ ACORN tactics in voter registration drives.
    This ACORN involvement coincides with the increasing partisanship of this situation.
    Congressional Democrats, and specifically Mr. Obama, are now saying that the problem underlying all this is “deregulation,” pushed by the Republicans. There are two fundamental flaws with this allegation.
    First, this is not deregulation. This is not the private sector. Fannie and Freddie are government creations, that pay their executives millions of dollars but are shielded with your tax money from suffering the downside risk of the market. Engage in racetrack-style financing, they must be strictly controlled. Deregulation is about keeping government from hobbling the private sector and hamstringing its ingenuity and productivity. Deregulation does not apply. Continued...



    http://townhall.com/columnists/KenBlackwell/2008/09/30/an_acorn_falls_from_the_tree


    I love taxpayer funded voter fraud.
     
  2. LeBuick

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    More proof he was on the phone with the Democratic leadership and had much input on the negotiations. :thumbs:

    I guess in the end we'll learn that one or two politicians are on the take. Or more.
     
  3. LadyEagle

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    Isn't it interesting that Obama is out on the campaign trail telling Washington to "get it done." My thought was, "well, Bud, you should be back in Washington doing the job you were already elected to do, instead of telling others to get it done" remembering the ONLY reason he went back briefly was because McCain made him look bad before the debate & the President requested he come back. Obama makes me sick. What a jerk.
     
  4. LeBuick

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    The candidates were asked not to go to the hill since they would bring extra politics and a slew of media. It's already a circus without them. Obama has respected the request to stay away but McCain went last week and it kind of bit him in the backside in the opinion polls. McCain is now saying like Obama was saying, "I will do what they need me to do and stay in touch by phone". I notice it's ok when McCain says it but very non-presidential when Obama said it.

    McCain didn't make Obama look bad except to the die hard republican's. The rest of us think the meeting in the white house was a photo op and McCain spent days in DC and we still have no plan. I know you don't see that, you will blame the Dem's for no plan even though 60% of them voted Yea. McCain could have stayed on the trail and not had a plan, he didn't need to be in DC for that.

    I agree Obama makes you sick but if this trend continues you will be very sick over the next 4 years. I sincerely wish you could be more open minded to those who are different than you without being sick but for now all I can do is pray.
     
  5. Bro. Curtis

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    yeah, let's just ignore his criminal associates & concentrate on troopergate.
     
  6. Revmitchell

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    And that is what the liberals in congress and on this board want to do.
     
  7. LeBuick

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    Someone brought up tropergate? I'm missing that post.
     
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