Obama Admits Kenyan Birth?

Look weak?

By meeting with someone with whom you have a disagreement?

I thought that meeting without pre-condition is the cornerstone of the Obama foreign policy platform.

Instead what we are seeing here in the face of this crisis is a "go it alone" "cowboy attitude".

Isn't Obama supposed to be different than that?

 

Could be that France did not consider her a US citizen, but the US did. The US, to my knowledge, doe not consider dual citizenship except in certain instances. i.e. missionary children.

She was a missionaries kid. She had dual citizenship until she was 21 and had to select a country. She selected to be Brazilian, but the US never ask for her passport and Brazil didn't care.

Not necessarily. That is both countries might consider them citizens, but one or the other not recognize the second citizenship.

Not as long as the US considered him still a citizen.

I do not think it speaks to this issue. Guess the Supreme Court would have to decide.

Why are you being testy?

 

Hey, I just had a thought. Since he will be the President in just a few months, and all of Washington worships him, they can just change the laws in his favor. That's what they are going to do with the other laws so why not one more?

 

Yes, look weak and that is exactly what McCain wants him to do. Palin said it best when she said she didn't blink. Obama should blink or flinch to accommodate every allegation thrown at him.

Obama doesn't have a disagreement with him. This is totally one sided. What if Bush met with every character who had a disagreement with him? He would never be in DC.

This is a good idea when it comes to other countries. Remember, no pre-conditions doesn't mean without exercising diplomatic channels first it simply means we can listen to them even if they don't meet all our request. Some of our request have been fairly bully type request so I don't blame some of these groups for not complying.

He is different, he isn't going it alone unless you count going without you as alone. The people who are demanding his birth certificate won't vote for him either way so what does he have to gain. You can see the crowds turning out and his numbers in the polls as proof he is far from alone.

 

My one daughter, living in Georgia, has dual citizenship. Until a few years, the USA did not recognize dual citizenship. This law was changed. When it comes to using that citizenship, my daughter can travel on her Canadian citizenship, but she cannot vote in a foreign country, including Canada.

My granddaughter was born in Canada and whilst she enjoys every advantage of being an "American" she must wait until she is 18 to make that official declaration.

Going back in hisotry, they tried this nonsense with Barry Goldwater when he ran for president because he was born in Arizona before it was an official state. It didn't work then, and prolly won't work now with Obama.

Cheers, and all the best in YOUR election,

Jim

 

The laws of citizenship for those born overseas, that were in place at the time of Obama's birth, required:

1. One parent to be a U.S. citizen (Obama qualifies)

2. That parent to have lived in the United States for at least 10 years (Obama qualifies)

3. At least 5 of those 10 years must have come after the age of 14. (Obama does not qualify)

If Obama was born in Kenya, as his grandmother maintains, then he is not a U.S. citizen because his mother was 18 years old when he was born, and, therefore, did not meet the 3rd requirement of having lived in the U.S. at least 5 years after the age of 14 (she only lived in the U.S. for four years after the age of 14) (please do not take the bold type to mean yelling. It is only for emphasis)

John McCain's birth in Panama is not even in question because of the active duty status of his father.

BTW, the laws in place at the time of Obama's birth also say that there are no standards by which to loose that type of citizenship. I take that to mean that, if Obama was born a citizen, he could not loose his citizenship by the actions of his parents (i.e. moving to Indonesia and claiming he had Indonesian citizenship)

I agree, then, that the laws of Indonesia concerning adoption and dual citizenship would not revoke Obama's U.S. citizenship, if he had it.

As far as Obama being born in Hawaii is concerned, that is one of the questions. Obama has failed to produce hospital records, or an origional long form birth certificate that would prove he was born in Hawaii.

The birth certificate that he has produced is a "copy" of the short form, generated in 2007.

peace to youraying:

 

When McCain's citizenship was questioned he provided everything they wanted. Obama has yet to produce anything. Having said that the title of the op is not factual. Here is a very good article on this BC:

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13075.htm

 

And isn't it interesting that his grandmother is at her death's door one week before the election. He will not have any witness of descent or ancestry after she is gone. Does that remind you of a certain prophesy?

As Artie Johnson used to say, "Verrry interrresting".

 

I am not sure where you get this information. I was curious, so I did some research on Obama's mother. So, she was in high school in Seattle, and thus she was always a natural born citizen.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1729524-3,00.html

This is a long, comprehensive article.

 

Another reference on Obama's mother's high school years in Washington State. She attended and graduated from Mercer Island High School,

http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cach...+Soetoro+high+school&hl=cs&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=cz

 

And don't I know it. Why, I've been called blasphemer in post #23 in the Mark My Words: Obama Will FAIL His Test.... thread.

 

Palatka51 -- I believe your source on Obama's mother not living in the States during her teen age years is very incorrect. Here is another reference:

 

Obama Birth Certificate Issue Goes to Hawaii Supreme Court

Might have been posted already but here it is.

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977486793

 

One thing I wonder is 'can this ever really and satifactorily be resolved?'

At some point, we may have to accept that BHO is everything he reports to be.

I've thought on this for some time:
If, as reported, his mother was late in pregnacy, too late to be allowed on an international flight to Hawai, he could have been born in Kenya... and then flown immediately within a day or so, to Hawai, where his birth might have been registered like a local home birth. Who's to know? Except for the close members of his family at that time. Without his willingness to establish the truth with the release of hospital records, etc, and with the aforementioned possibility.... we may have no choice but to accept his qualifications as to citizenship, unless someone in his family testifies differently.

 

The grandmother who stated she witnessed Obama's birth in Kenya was his father's mother, not his mother's mother.

peace to youraying:

 

This is the information that I found. The first, concerning citizenship requirements in 1961 came from:

http://immigration.findlaw.com/immig...u-know(1).html

The following is bio info on Obama's mother.

Please notice Ann Dunham gave birth at age 18. If she gave birth in Kenya, then she doesn't meet the one parent requirement in place at the time of having lived in the U.S. for at least 5 years after age 16 (another website showed the law as 14 years old) (only 2 years or 4 years), therefore Barack Obama is not a U.S. citizen if he was born in Kenya.

As stated before, an origional birth certificate from Hawaii could immediately end this discussion.

peace to youraying:

 

Wrong, he produced a certified copy of his birth certificate which satisfied everyone but the faaaaaar right...

 

Then maybe he ought to just hike on down to the court and turn that sucker over to the judge and end this game.:laugh:

If he doesn't and he's elected he's setting himself up for four years of cat calls that he's just an illegal alien that broke our laws to get himself into the White House.

 

Those who make these accusations won't like or vote for him whatever he does so would it really matter?