Obama and Odinga - The Burning Church

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  1. cranston36

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    Senator Barack Husein Obama’s father is from Kenya.
    His name was Husein Obama.
    He was a member of the Luo tribe.
    The Luo or Lwo are a family of linguistically affiliated ethnic groups who live in an area that stretches from the southern Sudan, through northern Uganda and eastern Congo (DRC). During their history they were at one time one of the main tribes to enslave and sell their neighbors into slavery to the whites or to the Arabs - whoever was closest and had the most money.
    Specifically Barack Husein Obama’s tribe is the Joluo and his father was a nationally known political agitator.
    Even though Husein Obama Senior was politically active the Luo tribe in Kenya took a back seat during the years of conflict for independence from Britain. The preferred to leave their fighting to others.
    After Kenya gained its independence it became one of the exceptions to the rule in Africa.
    Being a liberated colony the new leadership took power with little or no violence and maintained order for nearly forty years.
    During this time Kenya became one of the most powerful and richest black African nations. Many people look to Kenya in the east, Nigeria to the west and South Africa in the south to form the basis of a triangle of peace and prosperity.
    Kenya was able to put a controlling pressure on Uganda during the violent years of Idi Amin Dada’s rule. It was Kenya, it was hoped, that could lead the way to stop the genocide in the Sudan.
    Recall that the Luo tribe, of whom Barack Husein Obama claims for his own, live throughout southern Sudan - the location of the atrocities against mankind.
    Barack Husein Obama is a mystery to me but I do know that within 6 months of his visit to Kenya on August 26, 2006 the country has been teetering toward madness. His family in Kenya has been catapulted again into the public eye in Kenya. From the way they are acting it is as if the Luo people are expecting something that is not clear to the rest of us.
    This much is clear - after the last election President Mwai Kibaki became president of Kenya.
    Raila Odinga, his opponent and a radical, whose son, by the way, is named Fidel Odinga after Fidel Castro, did not like the result of the election and began to protest it.
    His followers became violent.
    Protests turned into riots.
    Many people were killed and some of President Kibaki’s supporters, in towns where they were outnumbered, began take refuge in Christian churches.
    Some of the churches were burned down.
    One of them - the Kenya Assemblies of God was surrounded by a screaming mob of political maniacs and set ablaze with women and children inside. Twenty-five children were burned to death along with four elderly people.
    The religion of the Luo for some time had been animism. That is, they believe in spirits and such. These days, however, the Luo are muslims. So what happened to the Kenya Assemblies of God was a crime of religious hatred but not only that it was an act of ethnic cleansing. In fact the Luo seem intent on driving out every other tribe or anyone different from them as soon as they can.
    What is it they want?
    As in Sudan there are large stores of untapped oil, gas and minerals. By driving off their rivals and putting one of their own in power they could hope to cement their power and increase their role in the Muslim world.
    After the election Senator Barack Husein Obama according to his spokesman called Raila Odinga "to express grave concern over the election outcome" of the election.
    Then Barack Husein Obama went off to an election rally of his own in New Hampshire to run for President of the United States and he apparently breathed not a word about the murderous and maniacal actions the followers of one of his friends had just carried out.
    When asked what the platform of his campaign was (and continues to be even after he lost the election) Odinga says, “My platform is change.”
    The first thing he wants to change in Kenya is the Constitution.
    Says Odinga, “…we ran on a platform of change.”
    Obama’s platform, according to his ‘official’ website is : “It’s about change.”
    There you have it.

    The questions remain :
    What is Barack Husein Obama - a Senator from Illinois - doing when he is interacting with a violent rebel, muslim leader in Kenya who may have been responsible for the murder of dozens of innocent people burned to death simply because they took refuge in a church?
    What is Barack Husein Obama doing when he interferes in the internal operations of a foreign nation like Kenya?
    Are you going to let a well organized and well financed representative of a foreign government push his way any further into your national government?
    How many more people have to die before Americans come to understand that Barack Husein Obama is not a product of the land of Lincoln?
    Born in Hawaii he spent most of his life in the violent and backward nation of Indonesia – where not too long ago the Australians had to stop the Muslims from killing all the Christians in East Timor.
    When will this blood soaked travesty of our national political system come to an end? When will the mocking smirk of our enemies be wiped from our television screens?
    Change they want? With the gun? With the torch?
     
  2. Magnetic Poles

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    What a load of trash. I imagine you are related to some not very nice people. In fact, from your posting this, I suspect you may not be a very nice person.
     
  3. cranston36

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    No - it's not a load of trash.
    You obviously did not research the matter or - alternatively - you are aware of these connections and are ignoring them and lying about them. Anyone who stands by and does nothing or encourages this behavior is just as guilty for the violence and mayhem because they use their God-given free will to choose to do nothing and allow evil to spread.

    We are willing to listen to reasoned opposition but your statement is clearly your personal opinion and you skipped all the relevant facts as well as the basic human decency which is being offended in these matters.
     
  4. Magnetic Poles

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    Well I think we know who the next candidate for banishment is. Looks like the last troll, bunnytoes, has returned with a different name, cutting and pasting more garbage filled with untruths.
     
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    There are no untruths in there from what I have been able to determine. Maybe you would post lies but I certainly would not.

    Don't you have any reasonable response to what was written or are you going to try and avoid Barack Husein Obama's shortcomings by attacking me personally?
     
  6. KenH

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    Hey, Magnetic Poles, have you noticed that a lot of these hate posts toward Obama are based on rather elaborate conspiracy theories and their "facts" go around about 10,000 miles to make a 1 inch point? They remind me of the 9/11 "truthers".
     
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    Bunnytoes, is that you?

    Seems similar.

    ETA: I think the definition of spam needs to include some sort of perspective on text format. (Ever notice how spam and paragraphs/margins/doube spacing do not mix?) Such as:

    Spam is like porn: I can't define it but I know it when I see it. ;)
     
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    What a profile:


    You're an 86 year old bus driver, eh? And you attend "The" First Baptist Church?
     
  9. cranston36

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    All of the information in the piece is historically documented.
    Are you going to lie to use and tell us that Barack Husein Obama did not call Raila Odinga on the telephone from New Hampshire?

    Would you have us believe that Raila Odinga's son's name is not Fidel Castro Odinga?

    Would you have us believe that there is no internal strife in Kenya right now and that those children and elderly folks died as a result of Orange Party mob tactics?

    tsk, tsk, tsk
    These are reasonable questions that must be answered. Trying to pretend that they are unimportant or 'ludicrous' has already been exposed as a bullying tactic.

    If you don't have reasonable rebuttal or anything informative to add please refrain from contacting me.
     
  10. KenH

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    What you have failed to prove, cranston36, is that Obama had anything to do with causing the turmoil in Kenya. Unless you can do so then you should refrain from posting about Obama on this subject.
     
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    I am seeking answers and now you state that because I don't have the answer I should not ask the question?

    You are really reaching. You must have checked on what I posted and found the truths in it.

    If you do not have any information for us or any reasonable rebuttal other than high school debating tricks then do us the kindness of refraining from interfering in this discussion.

    That's fair, isn't it?
     
  12. Magnetic Poles

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    An 86-year-old bus driver? Bwhahahahaha

    Yeah, right! The only bus that left the station here is the one carrying rational thought.

    BTW Cranston / Bunnytoes, you lost credibility on several points, starting with getting Sen. Obama's dad's name wrong. It also was Barack Hussein Obama. Then you try to link him to everything from dandruff to toenail fungus. Not even a good attempt. Of course, we realize this is just a cut and paste job, not your original thought.
     
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  13. KenH

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    Your OP gives much more of the appearance of a smear job than it does that of an honest inquiry.
     
  14. PastorSBC1303

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    I am no fan of Obama. But we should atleast be honest about him.

    I am continually amazed at the lengths some people will go to smear others.
     
  15. JamieinNH

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    Of course it's the same person that was using the name bunnytoes. Google is our friend. I just wonder how long it will be before the moderators on this board see him/her for what she/he is and ban this username.

    Jamie
     
  16. Ivon Denosovich

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    I'm thinking I'm gonna sit out the next bunnytoes thread. Out of all the reasons not to vote for someone, spam isn't one of them.
     
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  17. Ivon Denosovich

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    I found cranston36 at two other boards spamming them with hate for Obama as well. I linked to both boards and PM'ed a Mod. Bye, bye, bunnytoes.
     

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