Obama attacks Christianity

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  1. church mouse guy

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    Obama at the National Prayer Breakfast attacked Christianity for the Crusades, slavery, and Jim Crow. I guess that let's his religion of Islam off the hook for the universal mutilation of Islamic women and their other barbaric crimes against humanity in the news today.
     
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    First the Crusades were a response to Islam trying to take over the world. Second, there is no one alive today that was involved in any of that. His point is moot.
     
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    I guess we'll just take CMG's word for what Obama said at the prayer breakfast....
     
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    Thanks--it is rare that you take my word for anything, isn't it?
     
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    While it's true those things happened, were done by people calling themselves Christians, it is also true that it was Christians influenced the end of crusades. It was Christians who pushed for the end of slavery and called out Jim Crow as evil.
     
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    It could also be said the crusades were in response to the violent spread of islam in Europe at the time.
     
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    He didn't attack Christianity. He pointed out that any faith can be perverted and twisted and used to justify evil. Quotes from the speech...sorry for the all caps.

    "THE PROFOUND GOOD, THE STRENGTH, THE TENACITY, THE COMPASSION AND LOVE, THAT CAN FLOW FROM ALL OF OUR FAITHS, OPERATING ALONGSIDE OF THOSE WHO SEEK TO HIJACK RELIGION FOR THEIR OWN MURDEROUS ENDS."

    "IT'S NOT UNIQUE TO ONE GROUP OR ONE RELIGION. THERE'S A TENDENCY IN US, A SIMPLE TENDENCY THAT CAN PERVERT AND DISTORT OUR FAITH."
     
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    What a lot of hogwash from Obama. He has no knowledge of theology whatsoever. He brings up the same old tired points of crusades, slavery, and Jim Crow. He has a long standing reputation for trying to score theological points against Christianity. He should never again be invited to a National Prayer Breakfast. He does better at secret meetings in the White House with Islamic groups.
     
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    This country would be a much better place if people were able to engage in logical, rational thinking, instead of emotional, hate filled rhetoric.

    Unfortunately I don't think that will ever happen because it appears the vast majority of Americans are complete idiots.
     
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    Matt made my point better
     
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    The Christian church stopped teaching apologetics in the 19th century so now we are paying the price for this ignorance.

    Here is what Islam points out about race:

    http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/4686.htm
     
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    You have become one of my favorite posters in this place.
     
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    Really? I guess I'll have to take him off my...you know...
     
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    You got issues. Matt just tried to explain to you what the man DID say and you can't accept that because you need for him to attack Christianity to keep the far right narrative going.

    Perhaps Obama understands how Christianity has been perverted because, like you're attempting to do, he sees it used all the time to justify political positions that, at their core, have nothing to do with Christ.
     
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    I'm not familiar with his entire body of work and I've only been on this site a year but another voice of reason is always welcome.
     
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    AND THE REST OF THE STORY!

    Professing Christians did do terrible things but that was hundreds of years ago.

    OBAMMA IS AN APOLOGIST FOR ISLAM AND THAT IS A FACT!
     
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    And just to prove that Obama is an apologist for Islam I present the following from another thread!

     
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    What he said was completely unnecessary


    "...unless we get on our high horse blah, blah, blah"


    We are not on our so called high horse. We are mad that children, women, in fact all kinds of people being slaughtered, sold into sex slavery and all kinds of atrocities. All being done by Islamic extremists.


    And no you cannot divorce these actions from Islam.Period
     
  20. matt wade

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    Your article cut and paste does nothing but attempt to take quotes out of context.

    Here's full context. Read and be enlightened (or not).

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/02/05/remarks-president-national-prayer-breakfast

    Obama isn't a Christian in my book. Is he a Muslim? I don't know. He's a politician. He plays both sides of the fence.

    You want to criticize his speech? Criticize that he said we all worship the same God. There's something to criticize! Here's the quote for that:

    "And, first, we should start with some basic humility. I believe that the starting point of faith is some doubt -- not being so full of yourself and so confident that you are right and that God speaks only to us, and doesn't speak to others, that God only cares about us and doesn't care about others, that somehow we alone are in possession of the truth. "

    If you want to criticize, do so justly, not with out of context quotes.
     

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