Obama Attended Hate America Sermon by Wright

I did not mean to leave that impression. If anything I am jealous that he lives in such a beautiful state. I would love to live there.

I was only pointing out that West Virginia has a small population.

 

This is garbage. It stinks, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

 

As a Southerner, I take offense at that remark.

 

If you really feel this way you should listen to Obama speach. Right about the 22 minute point he basically says exactly what you just said. I think he dealt with the racial divisions in this nation really well and not just from the black viewpoint, he looked at from all directions including reverse discrimination...

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/hisownwords/

 

I am not from the south but I agree...

 

I AM from the South and I am both offended by the remark....and also acknowledge the "why" of it being made. Because unfortunately, I KNOW some people who wouldn't vote for Obama if he had 30 years of experience, was totally pro-life, a life-long Republican, and was the most conservative man to ever run for POTUS. And they would not vote for him simply BECAUSE he is black. I hate that fact, but it is sadly true.

Thankfully, that sentiment IS changing. I am heartened to read the many "color-blind" comments here on the BB, particularly from southerners, because it lets me know that the obviously UNChristian racist and bigoted attitudes of the South's past are changing in areas in addition to my own. Many of you gentlemen from non-southern towns/cities may truly NOT have seen the kind of horrible racism that Obama's pastor railed against. Unfortunately, I HAVE, and not just when I was a kid.

Obama's speech -- which I read in its entirety -- was a phenomenal "let's figure out what's wrong and finally work on getting it right" bit of persuasion that DID acknowledge the many facets of the racial divide that DOES still exist in this country. Obama is a masterful speaker....and the folks writing his stuff are brilliant (this speech is certainly "of the cloth" of Kennedy's greatest speeches).

My problems with Obama have nothing to do with skin color--they are all about substance--his stance on abortion (to name one specific social issue); his true lack of experience in the national arena (to me, it DOES matter); and the very fact that he IS such a great "speaker" both inspires me--and WORRIES me....he is, after all, a POLITICIAN. Words ARE important.....unfortunately, he's not had enough time in the public eye for his ACTIONS to back up his rhetoric.

 

BHO is a two faced bold faced tongue twisting arrogant pompas sorry excuse for a presidential candidate that ever stepped foot in the ring and if he exceeds to finish in this race (and I ain't talking color) no amount of foaming Drano could ever unclog what is in store for our continued existance in this world as we know it, for that matter, neither are the other two, that are still left in the running. GOD HELP US ALL!

 

Oh yeah, he should have made it an all nighter working on his speech, instead of quitting at 2:00 am. Maybe even a few more days....NAW, thta would have even been time for even more lies and deciet.

 

One vote NO for Obama... :thumbs:

Next time be more clear so we don't have to guess how you feel...

 

Nice rant! :sleep: :sleep:

 

If all this offense about the South was related to my comment to RM, I don't get it. I never mentioned the South at all. Do southerners identify with the Klan or something??

In any case, my comment was a little over the top, but some things that get me riled are racism and sexism.

 

My Great Grandmother was Kate Sumner Hiscock. Her mother's maiden name was Sumner and the sister of Charles Sumner. Making my Great Grandmother the niece of Senator Sumner. The name was so cherished in the family that my Grandfather was named Sumner Padget Hall. Here is an excerpt from The Impeachment of Andrew Johnson.com

Sumner became a leader of the anti-slavery forces in the Senate. During the debates on slavery in Kansas in May 1856, he delivered a two-day oration—"The Crime against Kansas"—that vehemently condemned Southern advocacy of the expansion of slavery. Congressman Preston Brooks of South Carolina believed that Sumner had insulted his uncle, Senator Andrew Butler. In retaliation, Brooks used his cane to beat Sumner, who was seated at his desk on the Senate floor, to unconsciousness. The caning of Sumner became a symbol in the North of Southern brutality. Meanwhile, Brooks became a hero in the South for defending Southern honor, and was subsequently reelected by his constituency. Besides his battle against slavery, Sumner led the fight for racial integration of Boston public schools in the 1850s.

During the Civil War, Sumner pushed for the emancipation of the slaves and introduced the 13th Amendment to the Senate in 1864. He also nominated a black lawyer, John Rock, to practice before the U.S. Supreme Court, introduced the bill that created the Freedmen’s Bureau, and proposed a civil service reform bill in 1864.
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Truly much needs to be done and I for one think that there are no easy answers. Much sacrifice has been made and more sacrifice is yet to come. The messages of preachers like Obama's is not the way to garner better racial relationships.

I enjoyed your post BTW.

Blessings

Brother Mel

 

OK...thanks for the explanation! :thumbs:

 

Before I jump all over you for these comments, do you realize that what you just said is equivalent to "The problem is lazy black people"?

Surely you would like to elaborate or clarify your comments

 

Well are there rednecks in the North, with a history of the Klan?

It gets me riled too when it is assumed that 1)we are rednecks and 2) we are associated with that horrible group.

 

Apparently what got you riled in this case was neither. Just the truth. Trying to turn things like this into racism discredits you severely. This "Sturm Und Drang" is not helpful.

 

As well as I and probably 85% of all white Southerners.

 

MP, your posts DO reflect an anti-racism and anti-sexism attitude, and I thank you for that. But I guess we Southerners are a bit "testy" about the association with the KKK....in a sense, it's because of a prejudicial attitude ABOUT the South (that CERTAINLY still exists in Hollywood!)--that we're all dumb and racist. I'm NOT proud of the KKK or its history in my part of the country, want no part of it, and don't want to be even remotely associated with it, and neither do most of my southern neighbors. I can't, unfortunately, say that as many Southerners are NOT "rednecks", though. THAT is apparently harder to outgrow--and the subject for another thread! :laugh:

As I said in my earlier post, though--I certainly understand WHY the comment was made--racism DOES still exist. It makes me sad--and amazed--that some people don't know that. This is NOT an issue that has been "settled"....it is still very much an active problem. It is NOT just as simple as "pull yourself up by your bootstraps and get a life"....thus, I can actually understand--even if I don't agree with--the horribly venomous things Wright said in his sermons. I've heard the horribly venomous things said by the folks that made Wright so mad in the first place. Until you've HEARD someone say, "Don't send any black salesmen around to see me, because I will NOT shake their hands or buy from them", then perhaps you really DON"T know that racism is still a real problem. I HAVE heard these things... and many much worse...in my lifetime AS AN ADULT--not just in the 1960's when the battle was first being fought so harshly.

It's an ongoing problem. Obama's speech got that part VERY correct. Sad, but true.

 

Do Southerners identify with the Klan?

*ahem*

Is the Pope Catholic?



While the klan is not uniquely southern, it bred here in a way that it could not breed anywhere else. While it is a shameful blot on on American history, it is more so on Southern history. AND it is close history both in time and place.

Prejudice takes a lot to escape when you are raised with it - surrounded by it. It is through God's precious grace, but it's hard not to take personally.

 

We are sisters aren't we