Obama Bombshell Redistribution of Wealth Audio Uncovered

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  1. Revmitchell

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    Ahhh come on yer just taking that out of context, that isn't ........

    Good grief are we in for a ride down the slippery slope!
     
  3. LeBuick

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    Sounds like he said the courts is not the place the changes will take place but that the legislative branch can make the changes.

    He is only talking about our current social programs to include our taxing system. He is not trying to make us communist and he can't do it by himself even if he is.
     
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    Do you like the suggestions via text overlays in case you missed when he wanted you to hear.
     
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    With a filibuster proof majority in the Senate he can and will!
     
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    It won't be just him, it will be him and the liberal house. That's what I mean by he can't do it by himself.
     
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    I believe he said that the courts just were not well suited to be the instrument of "redistributive change." He went on to say that the legislature is best suited to do so, and that it would require a great deal of oversight by the administrative branch.

    He is clearly talking about the redistribution of wealth. Take from those who have worked to earn wealth via taxes and redistribute that wealth to those who have not via government handouts and welfare programs. If he wins the office of POTUS and has a liberal/socialist Dem Congress behind him what is to stop this from happening? Do you really think Nancy Pelosi and Harry Ried will stand in his way?
     
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    That's a big IF and I would hope and pray they don't let it go too far if this does happen. The good thing is any changes can be reversed in future administrations and all perpetrators will have to run for reelection.
     
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    So if I understand you right, you will hope and pray that it will not happen (or at least not happen too much), but you'll still vote for the candidate who is most likely to try and bring it about?:tonofbricks: :confused: :tonofbricks:
     
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    Nothing too exciting here. Like most scholars, the man is a legal pragmatist.

    Further, he's making the entirely commonplace point that the civil rights movement failed to transition from arguing for negative rights ("freedom from") to positive rights ("freedom to") and correctly identifies the legislature as the sphere of activity from within which such a movement would constitutionally have to originate.
     
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    I don't believe he will but anything is better than continuing in the conservative philosophy. McCain admitted he believes in the conservative philosophy and if you haven't noticed, that is what the masses is voting against.

    Look, we've been giving tax breaks to the top end hoping jobs and wealth would trickle down. What has it got us? 160K jobs lost last month and 750K year to date. Corporate greed is at an all time high and we here on main street are suffering. These jokers have the nerve to give bonuses with the $700 Bill bailout dollars. You think a tax break will add a job? No way, it will just increase their bonuses.

    I am in favor of raising their taxes since all they think of is themselves. I don't think asking them for another 3% is too much to ask. And I know for a fact asking them for another 3% won't lose one job or kill the economy. They have our $700 Bill blank check to make sure that doesn't happen.
     
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    Your logic, or rather lack thereof, in your first sentence invalidates your entire argument here. You really need to read up on the effects of socialism on nations that have gone down that road. I suggest you read Margaret Thatcher's introduction to her autobiography, The Downing Street Years to get a good picture of what 30 years of socialism did to the UK before the Tories regained power in 1979. Also read, Winston Churchill's History of World War Two: The Gathering Storm vol. 1 and see what the leftist/socialists did to the UK between WWI and the outbreak of WWII.
     
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    More scary talk hey... Whooo, I'm scared of what our future holds because Obama will spread the wealth.

    Thanks but no thanks, we've lived through liberal presidents before and we can do it again. There was none more liberal or brought us closer to socialism than FDR and he did great things for the country to include bringing us out of the great depression. He put people to work which is what I hope Obama does. We know McCain won't because cutting taxes at the top has only created more jobs overseas. Been there done that.

    You guys really need to give up on the scare tactics. They've been the republican platform and campaign tool for so many years you haven't realized it's no longer effective. I believe if McCain had of spent any amount of times explaining his difference from Bush, his ideas and his views for the country he would be up in the polls. Instead he put all the parties hopes in Joe the Plumber, Ayres the Terrorist and my personal favorite, Obama will raise your taxes (a message intended for 5% of the people I guess).

    The republican campaign slogan, "You raise taxes and everyone will loose their jobs..." Not working!
     
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    Would you rather spread the poverty and concentrate the wealth?
     
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    Spreading the poverty is exactly what socialism does. It doesn't lift people out of poverty, it brings the wealthy (except the political elite) down to the level of poverty and government dependency.

    peace to you:praying:
     
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    Communism has been very successful in spreading out the poverty, i.e. Russia, China, etc. I was in China when it was still truely Communist, it isn't now. The gov. still calls itself Communist, but it really isn't.

    As for Socialism you say it spreads the poverty. How then do you explain the prosperity in socialist Europe?

    Do not confuse Communism and Socialism.
     
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    "Do you like the suggestions via text overlays in case you missed when he wanted you to hear."

    Guess I'm a little thick this morning, not sure what you are getting at.

    I heard the words, and I read the messages of text. I did not like what I was hearing from Obomba.
     
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    Give us a break. There is no prosperity in socialist Europe. What part if this site is not part of both the Obama Camp and the socialist agenda. Communism isnt what it has always been and has not enough difference between it and socialism to really point out a difference.
     
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    I gently suggest you visit Europe before making such an ignorant statement.

    There is no Communism in Europe now. There is capitalist-socialism, but not Communism. Perhaps you have been asleep the last 15 to 20 years.

    To say there is no difference between Socialism and Communism shows a total lack of understanding and ignorance of the two economic systems.
     
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    So what part of the site I listed is not part of socialism and the Obama Camp?
     

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