Obama Bows to the Russian Bear, Putin

You give him too much credit.

 

I bet you screamed when Russia was going to put missiles in Cuba. Remember last year there was noise that Russia Chevez would allow Russia to put military bases in Venezeula as a response to Bush's effort?

The missile sheild, a misnamed project, was a stupid idea from the beginning. This was not bowing to Putin. To think so is to be unthinking of the ramifications of a very stupid action on our part. With our satellites and existing radars this was an unnecessary project ... but for some reason Bush's rediculious far right wing wanted it.

 

Why would Russia believe Bush when he said it was defensive seeing how he had lied so much about other things. Would you believe Russian if they were putting "defensive" missiles in Canada? I don't think so. You would be beating the war drums.

Under Communism Russia was expansive. I believe Putin and others are much more into economic warfare than military. They know that a war with the US would be the end of Russia and the US, indeed the end of mankind.

Into the hands of the Russian Bear ... I don't think so. Which countries have suddenly become Russian? From what I heard in the Czech Republic the last four years they were very much against our putting radar into the country. The president accepted, but because he basically was bribed. There were several countries that refused to go along with Bush on this.

And we do have other alternatives that would be just as effective, if not more so, and would not alienate us from some current allies and possible future ones.

Simply more inflammatory talk. Has no validity at all. In fact, you want war which will guarantee our destruction. I desire peace which will save us from destruction. Be rational, please.

How do they go from zero to hundreds so quickly? North Korea has been working on missiles for years and years and has not developed a true ICBM yet. Do you really believe that Iran can suddenly develop one?

What route would their missiles take? Do you believe those countries would simply stand by and do nothing as Iran developed missiles. Russia will be all over them like flies on honey if they go too far .... as will Israel.

 

Here is the skinny....they just don't want to spend any money on anything military or defense. That detracts form their marxist agenda.

 

Guess you are right, 515.4 billion dollars is nothing .... can't buy anything with that small amount. No other country comes close to that figure.

 

Typical quote of Democratic apologists.

 

I would appreciate a thoughtful reply and now just a meaningless one-liner. Please respond with some rational thought. I will appreciate it greatly.

Given the history of the last 15 years and the rise of the economy in Russia show me otherwise. Remember there is no Warsaw Pact in existence now. Remember many of the former Warsaw Pact countries are now a part of NATO, so an attack on one is an attack on NATO. The world is a different place. The Cold War ended. We live in a different world and those changes need to be considered.

 

I am fully aware of the history since I lived part of it. You will get a thoughtful response when you give a thoughtful post, and not parrot the Democrat/Socialist agenda.

 

Of course I know. Did you know that the president of Georgia was foolish enough to tweek the Bear's nose. Of course Russia was looking for an excuse to take back some territory. Also, Georgia is not part of NATO ... did you know that? NATO is aiding Georgia in their reforms. Did you know that?

 

A person or a country has to pick and choose when to stand firm and when to compromise and when to cooperate.

Do you believe we would growl if Russia was forming a 'defensive' alliance with Mexico and Canada. No we would scream. Russia, understandably, see the growth of NATO as an attempt to surround them so we can attack aqnd destroy them. I think this is an unfounded fear ... but it is an understandable one.

That is one major reason I believe the idea of linking NATO's and Russia's missile systems together is a excellent idea. I seriously doubt that Russia would ever join NATO, but if we can move them to a position of them cooperating with NATO against common enemies it would be a great step forward for us and for them in establishing more friendly relations.

 

The idea that the Cold War is over lessens the threat of the old style nuclear war everyone feared back in the 60's is naive at best. Only the structure of the government in Russia is different. Do you think they have dismantled enough of those nuclear weapons to make it any less of a threat? Do you think they are aimed somewhere else besides us? If they have destroyed a few of them, that merely means they could destroy us six times over instead of seven.

 

It would be nice if you tried thinking instead of simply insulting. I am not excusing Russia. I am saying it is better to find areas of mutual interest than to simply be against everything. I suppose you do not believe scripture when it says "Come let us reason to gether," and "a soft answer turns away wrath."

Bush never tried to "reason together," Bush took the approach it is my way or the highway. Bush and his handlers were never ones to negotiate with. They were the ones to make commands and if you did not agree you were an enemy. Remember his statement saying something to the effect if you are not with me you are my enemy?

Situations change, new information is obtained. I surely would not want a president who would never change his mind about anything simply because he had made told someone something during a campaign. Did Bush keep all his "I will" statements from his campaigns. I think not.

Your big problem is all you can see is answering any situation with confrontation. That is neither wise nor following the teachings of Christ.

 

Yea, like invading Iraq.